Depowered Tyrant vs your 5

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Originally posted by Stoic
We clearly see everything down the line differently. Your judgement skills make little sense to me. So what if Galactus slapped Tyrant through a bulkhead? It wasn't as if it knocked him out! What was he supposed to do, stand there and tank Galactus' assault? I don't understand why you can't see this for the double standard that it is dude? It's like you were too busy noticing that one guy put out damage that you failed to remember that Tyrant put far more damage on Galactus. He isn't limited to a base level of physical strength when he has the ability to consume the natural energy from living creatures and create a symbiotic relationship with smart devices.

All of this Zoom, and Flash talk is ridiculous. Operator616 spelled it all out to you, but like the comics you read, and ignore portions of, you likely ignored many portions of what he wrote. Was Tyrant supposed to be unfazed by Galactus' punches? What are you saying exactly? Did you know that Galactus didn't have to blast tyrant in order for tyrant to absorb his power? Galactus does it himself. The only difference is that Tyrant doesn't get weaker with hunger.

You should go back and read everything on the character, because there's a ton more context on Galactus, and Tyrant than what was written during their final confrontation. Just saying. Tyrant was going to devour Galactus, and he prepped for centuries in order to take his revenge. Tyrant can drain just about any living creature of its life energy. Look at the assemblage of characters that he was draining with just those heralds. one was magic, three cosmic, one super alien, etc. It didn't matter what they were, he drained them all. Galactus was no different.

And LOL at powerful enough imp. Please.

Tyrant doesn't start at Galactus level. It takes time to absorb him. Galactus has the power to kill or absorb Tyrant before he becomes a threat.

Anyway, at FC zoom and flash can move at trillions of the speed of light. Do you know how much kinetic energy that would be? Do you know that they are capable of increasing the mass of their fist to astronomical amounts? Flash can speed steal, and do all other sorts of nasty attacks.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant doesn't start at Galactus level. It takes time to absorb him. Galactus has the power to kill or absorb Tyrant before he becomes a threat.

Anyway, at FC zoom and flash can move at trillions of the speed of light. Do you know how much kinetic energy that would be? Do you know that they are capable of increasing the mass of their fist to astronomical amounts? Flash can speed steal, and do all other sorts of nasty attacks.


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Originally posted by zopzop
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I lol every time I think about it. The flashes are extremely unfair to use in a forum fight. You might as well use a character that can effectively stop time for billions of years (defeating their opponents at their leisure) . An attosecond_is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 billion years. The only way Tyrant is beating the flashes is if we throw ALL common sense and logic out of the window.

P.S. Even if flash operated a million times slower than that then he would still have over 30, 000 years to beat the statue.

You know he is actually laughing at you right?

Originally posted by h1a8
I lol every time I think about it. The flashes are extremely unfair to use in a forum fight. You might as well use a character that can effectively stop time for billions of years (defeating their opponents at their leisure) . An attosecond_is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 billion years. The only way Tyrant is beating the flashes is if we throw ALL common sense and logic out of the window.

P.S. Even if flash operated a million times slower than that then he would still have over 30, 000 years to beat the statue.

I thought that Galactus was the one that physically struck Tyrant first? How would it make any sense that to say that Galactus was far above Tyrant when he was unable to one shot Tyrant? Even the Inbetweener has been rocked by a punch from Galactus. Sorry about the size of the pic guys.

Tyrant wasn't supposed to be able to tank a punch from Galactus, but when Tyrant attacks Galactus, he nearly kills him. Galactus has the ability to drain off power from Tyrant as well BTW. If anyone had the fight, could they post it? I believe that h1 is twisting the truth. Zoom and the lash can not beat someone that can not just tank their blows, but could energize the entire battlefield by flooding it with the power cosmic. Tyrant is also crazy fast. All Power Cosmic users can warp space, and when you couple that with a measure of cosmic awareness there is no way on earth that either or both Zoom, and the Flash are beating Tyrant. He could go anywhere that they can, but the difference is that he has the power to track them. They die horribly.

Originally posted by Stoic
I thought that Galactus was the one that physically struck Tyrant first? How would it make any sense that to say that Galactus was far above Tyrant when he was unable to one shot Tyrant? Even the Inbetweener has been rocked by a punch from Galactus. Sorry about the size of the pic guys.

Tyrant wasn't supposed to be able to tank a punch from Galactus, but when Tyrant attacks Galactus, he nearly kills him. Galactus has the ability to drain off power from Tyrant as well BTW. If anyone had the fight, could they post it? I believe that h1 is twisting the truth. Zoom and the lash can not beat someone that can not just tank their blows, but could energize the entire battlefield by flooding it with the power cosmic. Tyrant is also crazy fast. All Power Cosmic users can warp space, and when you couple that with a measure of cosmic awareness there is no way on earth that either or both Zoom, and the Flash are beating Tyrant. He could go anywhere that they can, but the difference is that he has the power to track them. They die horribly.


http://imgur.com/a/dRVjs#0

Mackey couldn't write to save his life 🙁 The showdown between Galactus and Tyrant under Marz was just as impressive. Galactus feasted in SS 75 (I think) then later he set out to find Morg and he was PISSED that his herald hadn't returned. Firelord even commented on how upset Galactus looked and he wouldn't want to be in his way.

Galactus takes Tyrant by surprise because Tyrant was playing with the heralds and threatens war unless Morg is returned. Tyrant dares him to try and Galactus backs down and Surfer even calls him on it.

WTF is Zoom gonna do to a being that can cause a fed and angry Galactus to back down?

Originally posted by Stoic
I thought that Galactus was the one that physically struck Tyrant first? How would it make any sense that to say that Galactus was far above Tyrant when he was unable to one shot Tyrant? Even the Inbetweener has been rocked by a punch from Galactus. Sorry about the size of the pic guys.

Tyrant wasn't supposed to be able to tank a punch from Galactus, but when Tyrant attacks Galactus, he nearly kills him. Galactus has the ability to drain off power from Tyrant as well BTW. If anyone had the fight, could they post it? I believe that h1 is twisting the truth. Zoom and the lash can not beat someone that can not just tank their blows, but could energize the entire battlefield by flooding it with the power cosmic. Tyrant is also crazy fast. All Power Cosmic users can warp space, and when you couple that with a measure of cosmic awareness there is no way on earth that either or both Zoom, and the Flash are beating Tyrant. He could go anywhere that they can, but the difference is that he has the power to track them. They die horribly.

They could energize the field after thousands of years in zooms mind. By that time they would be dead. Prove that Tyrant can take a hit from an object with the mass of a star or the kinetic energy capable of pulverizing planets. The IMP is a punch where Zoom or flash can gain limitless mass to strike with.

Originally posted by zopzop
http://imgur.com/a/dRVjs#0

Mackey couldn't write to save his life 🙁 The showdown between Galactus and Tyrant under Marz was just as impressive. Galactus feasted in SS 75 (I think) then later he set out to find Morg and he was PISSED that his herald hadn't returned. Firelord even commented on how upset Galactus looked and he wouldn't want to be in his way.

Galactus takes Tyrant by surprise because Tyrant was playing with the heralds and threatens war unless Morg is returned. Tyrant dares him to try and Galactus backs down and Surfer even calls him on it.

WTF is Zoom gonna do to a being that can cause a fed and angry Galactus to back down?

kill him in one hit. Kill Galactus too. Neither can tank infinite blunt force. Also zoom would have billions of years to defeat them. You can't tell me that imping for billions of years won't turn both into paste.

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant doesn't start at Galactus level. It takes time to absorb him. Galactus has the power to kill or absorb Tyrant before he becomes a threat.

Galactus himself said that a battle between him and Tyrant would cause massive destruction, what does that tell you?

Originally posted by h1a8
I lol every time I think about it. The flashes are extremely unfair to use in a forum fight. You might as well use a character that can effectively stop time for billions of years (defeating their opponents at their leisure) . An attosecond_is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 billion years. The only way Tyrant is beating the flashes is if we throw ALL common sense and logic out of the window.

P.S. Even if flash operated a million times slower than that then he would still have over 30, 000 years to beat the statue.

So just because Wally has two "attosecond" feats in his entire history we should assume that's the level he'll be operating at. Never mind the time when it was established that Barry needed an entire minute to reach super sonic speeds no matter how hard he tried, or the time Wally needed several seconds to reach mach 8 (there are many other limitations which i could mention but those two are the most recent and usable ones). That's all the time Tyrant needs to one-shot any Flash. But your logic dictates we should take the highest of high feats (and btw, those "attosecond" instances happened twice in the span of 6 or 7 issues and then they were forgotten and never used again from what i remember) and regard everything else, the decades of comics which show that he doesn't operate at these levels, as PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by zopzop
Which is false since we saw the ship destroyed ON PANEL and in the aftermath of the UN overloading we see the ruins of the worldship in SS109. You can clearly see the wrecked worldship on panel :

And you are completely ignoring the fact thgat Tyrant was almost entirely destroyed before the UN overloaded anyway, since Morg used the nullifier to destroy his body.

Do you know what a retcon means exactly? If Galactus' worldship was destroyed, where did it come from again?

Only you can take losing to the UN as some kind of low for a character.
If only he had lost to UN. He didn't.

More proof Reed was full of sh|t in that FF arc, he claims that Morg turned on Galactus and attacked him with the UN. Morg in fact got the UN to save Gaalctus from Tyrant :

Well, Morg did turn on Galactus, and he even says he only heard it from surfer which was pointed out as less than objective. The point still stands that Tyrant sucks and Monarch would own him like a *****.

Originally posted by operator616
Galactus himself said that a battle between him and Tyrant would cause massive destruction, what does that tell you?

So just because Wally has two "attosecond" feats in his entire history we should assume that's the level he'll be operating at. Never mind the time when it was established that Barry needed an entire minute to reach super sonic speeds no matter how hard he tried, or the time Wally needed several seconds to reach mach 8 (there are many other limitations which i could mention but those two are the most recent and usable ones). That's all the time Tyrant needs to one-shot any Flash. But your logic dictates we should take the highest of high feats (and btw, those "attosecond" instances happened twice in the span of 6 or 7 issues and then they were forgotten and never used again from what i remember) and regard everything else, the decades of comics which show that he doesn't operate at these levels, as PIS/CIS.

The problem that h1 does not understand is that these PC characters can warp space to the point that they can time travel, pr bend time. The Surfer just did it to escape the end of the 616 verse. I mean this just happened in comics. He also did it back in the Ron Lim days. How are these guys supposed to be ahead of Tyrant? Not to mention that h1 is trying to take one showing and make it the norm, even if it means nothing to a guy that can warp space.

Originally posted by h1a8
kill him in one hit. Kill Galactus too. Neither can tank infinite blunt force. Also zoom would have billions of years to defeat them. You can't tell me that imping for billions of years won't turn both into paste.

When has Zoom IMPd?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know what a retcon means exactly? If Galactus' worldship was destroyed, where did it come from again?

Uhm, he created it once. He can recreate it whenever he wanted. When Magus used 5 CCUs to annihilate Galactus/SS/Nova/Strange and Galactus' ship, it was Galactus that recreated it.

If only he had lost to UN. He didn't.

He did. It's right there on panel.

Well, Morg did turn on Galactus, and he even says he only heard it from surfer which was pointed out as less than objective. The point still stands that Tyrant sucks and Monarch would own him like a *****.

Tyrant would annihilate Monarch. You can believe what you want though.

Originally posted by zopzop

Uhm, he created it once. He can recreate it whenever he wanted. When Magus used 5 CCUs to annihilate Galactus/SS/Nova/Strange and Galactus' ship, it was Galactus that recreated it.

Then it was atomized. Here it would've been nullified.

So, no it wasn't Galactus.

He did. It's right there on panel.

It was overload of UN. It was just an energy blast at that point.


Tyrant would annihilate Monarch. You can believe what you want though. [/B]

Yeah, right. Quasar with Reed help drained Galactus too. Better than Tyrant did.

Quasar for skyfather level. Right?

But tell me again how Galactus not choosing to fight him due to unwanted destruction is actually a feat for Tyrant.

And Monarch was smacking Monitors around like babies. Fighting Galactus isn't on that level.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Then it was atomized. Here it would've been nullified.

So, no it wasn't Galactus. It was overload of UN. It was just an energy blast at that point.

Yeah, right. Quasar with Reed help drained Galactus too. Better than Tyrant did.

Quasar for skyfather level. Right?

But tell me again how Galactus not choosing to fight him due to unwanted destruction is actually a feat for Tyrant.

And Monarch was smacking Monitors around like babies. Fighting Galactus isn't on that level.

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I've already accepted your concession on multiple matters in the other thread onezee, but I figured I'd post here. Tyrant would curb Monarch, and you know it

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I've already accepted your concession on multiple matters in the other thread onezee, but I figured I'd post here. Tyrant would curb Monarch, and you know it

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Keep barking kid. It's funny to see someone so full of himself at these forums.

Scans or GTFO.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then it was atomized. Here it would've been nullified.

So, no it wasn't Galactus. It was overload of UN. It was just an energy blast at that point.


Yes it was. Morg had already blasted him at least twice with the UN and destroyed the majority of his body. The UN overloading finished him off. The UN blast was so potent that Galactus himself had to TP away to escape it and if he'dve stayed in the blast he'd be dead.

Yeah, right. Quasar [b]with Reed help drained Galactus too. Better than Tyrant did.

Quasar for skyfather level. Right?

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Yes, with REED's HELP. The same guy that had Celestial Killing tech in his closet. The same guy that reset the multiverse with the UN. The same guy that helped create the MU with Alien Entity. That Reed? 🙄

But tell me again how Galactus not choosing to fight him due to unwanted destruction is actually a feat for Tyrant.

Destruction on an unimaginable scale and even if Tyrant won, he'd rule over rubble. Those were Galactus' words.

Originally posted by zopzop

Yes it was. Morg had already blasted him at least twice with the UN and destroyed the majority of his body. The UN overloading finished him off. The UN blast was so potent that Galactus himself had to TP away to escape it and if he'dve stayed in the blast he'd be dead.

So? It only shows how weak Galactus was shown in that arc that a solar system level blast would've killed him.

Just like in Infinity War. Galactus sucks too.


Yes, with REED's HELP. The same guy that had Celestial Killing tech in his closet. The same guy that reset the multiverse with the UN. The same guy that helped create the MU with Alien Entity. That Reed?
So just because it was Reed, we'll just forget about how easy it was for Quasar to drain Galactus off? But somehow Tyrant absorbing Galactus is not considered the same? Hypocrisy much?

Destruction on an unimaginable scale and even if Tyrant won, he'd rule over rubble. Those were Galactus' words. [/B]

Who cares? Tyrant got his ass handed to him when he tried to fight him first time. He was losing again until he absorbed his power.

He was a mere skyfather level character after all. A single Monitor would stomp him.

Monarch will end him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So? It only shows how weak Galactus was shown in that arc that a solar system level blast would've killed him.

Just like in Infinity War. Galactus sucks too.


It wasn't a "solar system' level blast. That was the damage it caused AFTER it got through wrecking Galactus' worldship that was meant to contain as much of the blast as possible.

And using collateral damage as the sole gauge of power in comics is idiocy on your part. MM hit Beyonder with a billion dimension slagging blast and Marsha's apartment wasn't even singed. 🙄

Look at those 'weakings'.

So just because it was Reed, we'll just forget about how easy it was for Quasar to drain Galactus off? But somehow Tyrant absorbing Galactus is not considered the same? Hypocrisy much?

The Quantum Bands can be uber items in the right hands. Even a noob Quasar used them to shut down a bloodlusted Rogue Watcher. He's used them to absorb and deflect a IG blast from Thanos.

Who cares? Tyrant got his ass handed to him when he tried to fight him first time. He was losing again until he absorbed his power.

He was a mere skyfather level character after all. A single Monitor would stomp him.

Monarch will end him.


Tyarnt lost after a good fight the first time. Hence why Galactus was hesitant to fight him when he showed up again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So? It only shows how weak Galactus was shown in that arc that a solar system level blast would've killed him.

Just like in Infinity War. Galactus sucks too.

So just because it was Reed, we'll just forget about how easy it was for Quasar to drain Galactus off? But somehow Tyrant absorbing Galactus is not considered the same? Hypocrisy much?

Who cares? Tyrant got his ass handed to him when he tried to fight him first time. He was losing again until he absorbed his power.

He was a mere skyfather level character after all. A single Monitor would stomp him.

Monarch will end him.

Buffoonery 101 again from Mr. Superman OneZee. Galactus first battle wasn't a stomp nor easy. In fact, it lasted for years and years before it was resolved. If it was so easy.. and Tyrant not in his class.. the battle would've taken minutes... hours.. a day even... but hundreds of years... Yeah, I'd say he's well above skyfather level. In fact, he'd shit all over Monarch with relative ease.