Originally posted by -Pr-the strong version,
Namor is well above Colossus, for starters.Wendigo varies, so either you're going with the strong version that's above Pete, or the weak version that's around his level if not lower.
and no namor is not well above colossus, heck did you see the scans of when colossus helped save namor from that robot that was whooping his ass?
, please stop arguing with me
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
a guy can hold his own against wendigo shouldnt be allowed in this thread?i guess wendigo doesnt belong either, so does namor
I don't mean to piss on Colossus, because he's a character I respect and a legitimate contestant in the low-100 tonner range, but some of the people here are among the highest strength rang known to comics, a rang in which Piotr just doesn't belong.
Namor is arguably a mid 100 tonner, I'm sure that can be debated, but he has some showings. Wendigo, Namor and Colossus are still at the bottom 3 here.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
all that will change once colossus gets his upgrade in x men 540, he will be stronger than superman
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I hope he gets more respect then. He is a great char and he isn't the only one who doesn't belong here, if we just want to see the strongest chars.
Oh and then I would like to see Colossaut punch DBH into the face!
Namor and Colossus are close in strength?
crylaugh
I'll debate/battle zone anyone who wishes to discuss the topic. Namor has consistently shown to be on par or very close to elite strong men. This isn't the same as that one time showing with Gladiator which Colossus fans always reference, he has gone toe to toe with Hercules, Hulk, amping Black Bolt, Sentry etc. and at least held his own on a consistent basis; he's had like half a dozen battles with Hulk alone. Heck, he has had the advantage over some of them underwater. I'm sorry, but if a character is even hinted at being stronger than Immortal Hercules, he's beyond Colossus.
If you believe Namor is only a bit stronger than Colossus, you should also be prepared to support the stance against all the other big dogs.
I honestly don't understand why Namor gets so underrated on this board. True, he isn't one of the heavily promoted power houses but some people act like his a pointy eared Aquaman. All one has to do is read up on him and they'd quickly realize how damn strong he is.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
the strong version,and no namor is not well above colossus, heck did you see the scans of when colossus helped save namor from that robot that was whooping his ass?
, please stop arguing with me
I've read tons of both characters. As impressive as Colossus is, and with his multitude of feats, he still lags well behind Namor in terms of strength. Their durability is closer than their strength, tbh.
The comics support this.
And Colossus helping Namor doesn't mean anything.
Originally posted by -Pr-it was always a sound argument that was all but confirmed in the latest issue, and as strange said here:
I think it's more a case of people using individual feats to push their argument, like the stepping coast-line one, that was a problem rather than people thinking that hulk couldn't damage/destroy a planet. i think the line gets blurred too often between whether a feat is what people say it is, and what we know a character should be capable of.
it was nay-sayers who bucked logic more than anything else.
hulk holding back can't step on the ground without threatening tectonic fissures, and now using his real power the planet itself shatters just from the opening salvo of his fight without direct interaction.
i think an "I told you so" is in order more than anything else
Originally posted by psycho gundam
it was always a sound argument that was all but confirmed in the latest issue, and as strange said here:it was nay-sayers who bucked logic more than anything else.
hulk holding back can't step on the ground without threatening tectonic fissures, and now using his real power the planet itself shatters just from the opening salvo of his fight without direct interaction.
i think an "I told you so" is in order more than anything else
...You agree?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
idunno, you seemed to be implying there was ambiguity in hulk's "feets"
biscuits, i personally didn't get confused by pak's message at all.
I haven't read the newer stuff, but in regards to WWH, I honestly believed the coastline feat was blown out of proportion. Again, not because Hulk is incapable of destroying a continent, but because of the way it was presented.
Plus, in all honesty, WWH was crap.
the newer stuff is really bad....REALLY bad, but i guess it's only necessary for pak's last hurrah and for him to show off what he was building over the years; hulk's true power.
Originally posted by -Pr-i don't see how one could not see the grandure in such a feat knowing that walking is not an attack, yet a single step forward for him causes continental damage. how that doesn't translate to his arms/fists colliding into say, the thing's face is mind boggeling.
I honestly believed the coastline feat was blown out of proportion. Again, not because Hulk is incapable of destroying a continent, but because of the way it was presented.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
the newer stuff is really bad....REALLY bad, but i guess it's only necessary for pak's last hurrah and for him to show off what he was building over the years; hulk's true power.
Good for him. I miss the days when Hulk could be written powerful without the book being, well, shit.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Namor and Colossus are close in strength?crylaugh
I'll debate/battle zone anyone who wishes to discuss the topic. Namor has consistently shown to be on par or very close to elite strong men. This isn't the same as that one time showing with Gladiator which Colossus fans always reference, he has gone toe to toe with Hercules, Hulk, amping Black Bolt, Sentry etc. and at least held his own on a consistent basis; he's had like half a dozen battles with Hulk alone. Heck, he has had the advantage over some of them underwater. I'm sorry, but if a character is even hinted at being stronger than Immortal Hercules, he's beyond Colossus.
If you believe Namor is only a bit stronger than Colossus, you should also be prepared to support the stance against all the other big dogs.
I honestly don't understand why Namor gets so underrated on this board. True, he isn't one of the heavily promoted power houses but some people act like his a pointy eared Aquaman. All one has to do is read up on him and they'd quickly realize how damn strong he is.
of course namor would win a feats war and some impressive showings. and he's had, you know, a few more appearances than the adult version of colossus. 😐
however, the current version (and younger version) have some feats that would indicate he could certainly hang with namor. his battle against sym, his recent battle against hulk, his battle against she-hulk, sasquatch, against full density vision (who has been shown to be equal to wonderman) even his old bar brawl battle against juggernaut--though clearly outclassed he didn't do noticeably worse than prof hulk did--and of course the glads showing all indicate he's a powerhouse. he is very very rarely truly outclassed in any battle, and usually manages to hold his own against pretty well anyone.
as i said--is namor stronger? sure. a lot stronger? not imo.
and immortal herc is definitely stronger than namor (namor was po'd that herc was able to move against an energy beam when he was not strong enough to) though where it was hinted namor was stronger i'd love to see.....
namor would likely take a small majority against peter.