Originally posted by Zampanó
[B]This is the part where I insult you for being thick.Explain to me exactly where there is a disconnect between the physics of motion in SW and the physics of motion in our own world. Within canon, Bane was capable of vaporizing every inbound drop of rain during an intense rainstorm. For that to happen, his lightsaber had to move through each raindrop before the water reached his skin. His lightsaber had to make at least 200 rotations per minute for that to occur.
It's called intent and potrayal. Bane, while a might warrior, is no where else presented to move at such speeds.
I also would point out that this a work of a fiction and does not have to follow the same laws that govern our universe. But if you like to use real world physics in these debates, by all means do so. But then, as I said earlier, Luke can juggle planets.
Originally posted by ares834
It's called intent and potrayal. Bane, while a might warrior, is no where else presented to move at such speeds.I also would point out that this a work of a fiction and does not have to follow the same laws that govern our universe. But if you like to use real world physics in these debates, by all means do so. But then, as I said earlier, Luke can juggle planets.
How, then, is the lightsaber going to intercept the path of all of the raindrops? You seem to think that there is a disconnect between "doing physics" and "things happening." I assure you there is no such distinction. If things are happening, then there are interactions among particles. Those interactions are physics.
Could you describe to me what it would mean for Star Wars to "not have to follow the same laws that govern our universe"? I honestly have no idea what that means.
It's funny that you think this last point is some sort of victory against me when I want Luke to be accepted as a planet juggler. Black hole in the center of the galaxy, anyone?
And Luke's lack of planetary showmanship is not for lack of kinetic energy, but for need and disposition. Moving planets tends to destroy them, and Luke has generally been anti-genocide. However, he does operate on planetary scales--look at the illusion at the end of Caedus's life.
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Originally posted by ZampanóWell, I believe he turned a planet invisible during the DN crisis while creating a fictional fleet during one of those battles with Caedus and the Galactic guard.
The one that turns the planet invisible. Maybe it was the fleet that turned invisible? Anyway, Luke turns something big invisible. Right?
Originally posted by Zampanó
How, then, is the lightsaber going to intercept the path of all of the raindrops? You seem to think that there is a disconnect between "doing physics" and "things happening." I assure you there is no such distinction. If things are happening, then there are interactions among particles. Those interactions are physics.
Not sure where you got this. My point is one must view the source as intended (which, yes, can lead to a whole new can of worms). The scene shows that Bane is a badass with the saber, but (like Lucius said) I doubt Drew is crunching the numbers and therefore intending Bane to be swirling his saber at 500 RPM. Furthemore, as we see in the rest of the novels Bane never displays such inhuman speed.
Could you describe to me what it would mean for Star Wars to "not have to follow the same laws that govern our universe"? I honestly have no idea what that means.
In other words the SW universe doen't have to say E is equal to mc^2.
It's funny that you think this last point is some sort of victory against me when I want Luke to be accepted as a planet juggler. Black hole in the center of the galaxy, anyone?
And Luke's lack of planetary showmanship is not for lack of kinetic energy, but for need and disposition. Moving planets tends to destroy them, and Luke has generally been anti-genocide. However, he does operate on planetary scales--look at the illusion at the end of Caedus's life.😂
Well if you like to look at things that way, be my guest. Also I would argue that while making someone imagine a large fleet is attacking is impressive it really isn't that more difficult then showing them some other illusion as in both cases you're manipulating the mind and not reality.
Feeling a blast of cold wind blow in, he crouched low and opened himself up to the Force, letting it flow through him.
He could sense the power of the dark side building inside him. It began, as it always did, with a faint spark, a tiny flicker of light and heat. Muscles tense and coiled in anticipation, he fed the spark, fueling it with his own passion, letting his anger and fury transform the flame into an inferno waiting to be unleashed.
His body and mind united as one, he channeled the infinite power of the Force against the driving rain.
Let's keep some perspective here, folks.
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What's this, do I see Gideon not taking the quote at face value? 😂
So because I quoted segments of the excerpt to remind people that Bane had to significantly channel the dark side in order to accomplish this display of precision and speed... I'm not taking the quote at face value?
I'm not sure if you're trolling or stupid and there's equal evidence of both. haermm
Originally posted by Turr_PhennirBoth. But I was rather surprised that you didn't come in and defend LS' "Palpatine knew everything" quote so maybe you're not as big a poofter as I thought you were (doubt it though).
So because I quoted segments of the excerpt to remind people that Bane had to significantly channel the dark side in order to accomplish this display of precision and speed... I'm not taking the quote at face value?I'm not sure if you're trolling or stupid and there's equal evidence of both. haermm
Originally posted by ares834
I also don't recall him doing this naked. 313
"Barefoot and naked from the waist up, he shivered and glanced down at the abstract mosaic of the stone courtyard illuminated in the light of Ciutric IV's twin moons. Goose bumps crawled across his flesh, but he ignored the night's chill as he ignited his lightsaber and began to practice the aggressive forms of Djem So."
Still respectable.
Originally posted by ares834
In other words the SW universe doen't have to say E is equal to mc^2.
Link
Dr. David D. Deutsch, Institute of Mathematics, Oxford University: observed: "If we nudge one of these constants just a few percent in one direction, stars burn out within a million years of their formation, and there is no time for evolution. If we nudge it a few percent in the other direction, then no elements heavier than helium form. No carbon, no life. Not even any chemistry. No complexity at all."Dr. Paul Davies, noted author and professor of theoretical physics at Adelaide University, said: "The really amazing thing is not that life on Earth is balanced on a knife-edge, but that the entire universe is balanced on a knife-edge, and would be total chaos if any of the natural 'constants' were off even slightly."
Stephen Hawking:
"The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."
You can't monkey around with the basecode of the universe without becoming a dick.
(See: The Spore effect:
http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/973/973957/spore-20090417100251376.jpg)
Originally posted by ares834
Not sure where you got this. My point is one must view the source as intended (which, yes, can lead to a whole new can of worms). The scene shows that Bane is a badass with the saber, but (like Lucius said) I doubt Drew is crunching the numbers and therefore intending Bane to be swirling his saber at 500 RPM. Furthemore, as we see in the rest of the novels Bane never displays such inhuman speed.
Wait what?
"She fell into a defensive posture as she so often had during their training sessions. But this was no drill, and her Master came at her with a speed and ferocity she had never faced before. Giving in to his orbalisk-fueled bloodrage, he was like a wild animal, raining savage blows down on her from all angles, the strikes coming so fast it seemed as if he wielded a dozen blades at the same time. Zannah fell into a full retreat, desperately giving ground beneath the overwhelming assault."
"He waited until the last possible second before unleashing the energy bottled up inside him in a tremendous rush of power. He channeled it through his muscles and limbs, moving so fast it seemed as if time had stopped for the rest of the world. In the blink of an eye he knocked the saber from Sirak's hand, sliced down to shatter his forearm, then spun through and brought his saber crashing into his opponent's lower leg. It splintered under the impact and Sirak screamed as a shard of gleaming white bone sliced through muscle, sinew, and finally skin.
For an instant none of the spectators was even aware of what had happened; it took their minds a moment to catch up and register the blur of action that had occurred so much quicker than their eyes could see."
I guess you've never heard of Force Speed before. Bane is one of the fastest Force-users in the mythos. Theres no inconsistency in this.
