Zannah vs Maul

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Barefoot and naked from the waist up, he shivered and glanced down at the abstract mosaic of the stone courtyard illuminated in the light of Ciutric IV's twin moons. Goose bumps crawled across his flesh, but he ignored the night's chill as he ignited his lightsaber and began to practice the aggressive forms of Djem So."

Still respectable.

Damn, this just goes to show you never underestimate Drew's ability to write fanboy porn.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I guess you've never heard of Force Speed before. Bane is one of the fastest Force-users in the mythos. Theres no inconsistency in this.

And yet all of those examples aren't even close to approaching 500 RPM much less 1.46 KM/s as Zampano's other number suggests if Bane wasn't spinning it above his head...

B*tch perhaps 😉

crazy, right?

wut

Originally posted by ares834
Damn, this just goes to show you never underestimate Drew's ability to write fanboy porn.

And yet all of those examples aren't even close to approaching 500 RPM much less 1.46 KM/s as Zampano's other number suggests if Bane wasn't spinning it above his head...

he wasn't though, he was practicing Djem So.

Let's be honest. Drew is ridiculous. But that doesn't undo this feat.

Originally posted by truejedi
he wasn't though, he was practicing Djem So.

Let's be honest. Drew is ridiculous. But that doesn't undo this feat.

Soresu.

And no, I'm not trying to undo the feat. Even without giving it numbers it is still one of the most impressive feats in the mythos.

I just don't see how blocking 10 or 12 blaster bolts compares to blocking that many raindrops.

is still not sure what the fuss is about

I pointed out three examples within the text of Bane having to channel the dark side meditatively before this feat was performed. It's not as though he lifted the saber and immediately began hacking away. Still impressive, but hardly automatic and I'm not sure this puts Bane beyond Grievous in terms of speed.

It doesn't. Even without adding the numbers, Bane's feat is far more impressive.

Originally posted by ares834
And yet all of those examples aren't even close to approaching 500 RPM much less 1.46 KM/s as Zampano's other number suggests if Bane wasn't spinning it above his head...

Not really. The first quote says that it seemed like he was attacking with a dozen lightsabers at once. How many strikes per second do you think that is? 10? 15? 20? Multiply that by 60 and you can get a figure in the same ballpark as 500 RPM.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not really. The first quote says that it seemed like he was attacking with a dozen lightsabers at once. How many strikes per second do you think that is? 10? 15? 20? Multiply that by 60 and you can get a figure in the same ballpark as 500 RPM.

Fair enough, and looking back at Zampano's numbers he calculated 200 RPM not 500 RPM, that's far more believable.

And then there's this, posted by this really cool dude who's craving Rally's atm.

Me
is still not sure what the fuss is about

I pointed out three examples within the text of Bane having to channel the dark side meditatively before this feat was performed. It's not as though he lifted the saber and immediately began hacking away. Still impressive, but hardly automatic and I'm not sure this puts Bane beyond Grievous in terms of speed.

He didn't meditate in the 'seemed like he was attacking with a dozen lightsabers at once' duel smartypants. So there.

Neph
He didn't meditate in the 'seemed like he was attacking with a dozen lightsabers at once' duel smartypants. So there.

You missed the "giving into his orbalisk-fueled bloodrage" part, tho. 131

If he has the orbalisks in a thread then that don't bother me none.

Originally posted by Nephthys
"Feeling a blast of cold wind blow in, he crouched low and opened himself up to the Force, letting it flow through him. Drawing on it to extend his awareness out to encompass each individual bead of rain as it fell from the sky, he resolved not to let a single drop touch his exposed flesh.

He could sense the power of the dark side building inside him. It began, as it always did, with a faint spark, a tiny flicker of light and heat. Muscles tense and coiled in anticipation, he fed the spark, fueling it with his own passion, letting his anger and fury transform the flame into an inferno waiting to be unleashed.

As the first fat drops splattered onto the patio stones around him, Bane exploded into action. Abandoning the overpowering style of Djem So, he shifted to the quicker sequences of Soresu, his lightsaber tracing tight circles above his head in a series of movements designed to intercept enemy blaster bolts.

The wind rose to a howling gale, and the scattered drops quickly became a downpour. His body and mind united as one, he channeled the infinite power of the Force against the driving rain. Tiny clouds of hissing steam formed as his blade picked off the descending drops while Bane twisted, twirled, and contorted his body to evade those few that managed to slip through his defenses.

For the next ten minutes he battled the pelting storm, reveling in the power of the dark side. And then, as suddenly as it had begun, the tempest was gone, the dark cloud scurrying away on the breeze. Breathing hard, Bane extinguished his lightsaber. His skin was sheened in sweat, but not a single drop of rain had touched his bare flesh."

Besides which it didn't seem to take him long to build up the energy. The above text mentions that theres already rain falling when he starts and he acts immediately when they hit the ground. And we know he can both build up energy while fighting and sustain it for upwards of 10 minutes.

My favorite part about this thread is when using the "cloudburst" numbers, the number shoots up to 73,150 RPM and the speed at the end of the lightsaber is faster than the orbital speed of an object in low-earth-orbit.

😄

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Uh, based on what evidence exactly?

Evil Never dies. the Sith King's betrayers gave the holocron to the new Dark Lord as a gift and it was passed down until it was lost in the Great Hyperspace War

Good job LS, you provided a quote. Now we know either Vader or Palpatine had it. Do we know if they studied it or are we just going to assume one of them did?

You are aware that Palpatine was, again, the one behind the Mecrosa order? They answered to him? Palpatine is described as strictly controlling Vader's access to Sith holocrons, by the way.
And if Palpatine had it, he didn't study it? Seriously? Mr. "Knowledge is everything?"

IF you have a holocron, you don't keep it as a paperweight

Nothing is clearing stating that he mastered it LS. Being the gatekeeper doesn't require mastery of the holocron but a certain level of skill or successful initiation by the previous gatekeeper. Stop reaching.

Because you come back years later with the same petty, tiresome, debunked arguments (symbolized by your Palpatine DE quote). If you at least attempted to hide your rampant PT fanboyism, others would engage you in debate more often. Otherwise, you're a lost cause.

I'm sorry, direct canonical quotes are somehow not valid when they don't support you?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Evil Never dies. the Sith King's betrayers gave the holocron to the new Dark Lord as a gift and it was passed down until it was lost in the Great Hyperspace War

You are aware that Palpatine was, again, the one behind the Mecrosa order? They answered to him? Palpatine is described as strictly controlling Vader's access to Sith holocrons, by the way.
And if Palpatine had it, he didn't study it? Seriously? Mr. "Knowledge is everything?"

IF you have a holocron, you don't keep it as a paperweight

Of the greatest Sith Holocron out there? For starters, unless it judges you worthy, you can't access it. Becoming the representation of the knowledge is a different thing/.
Not only that, but Palpatine is the one describing everything in the Holocron, and indicates he has much, much more in store

Uh, what strawman? That's not a strawman.

In Jedi vs. Sith. He says all the knowledge was imparted to Nadd and Kun as a result of Sadow's generosity, and they freely shared all they knew as well. He says since neither ended well, he'll keep the majority of Sadow's knowledge to himself

I'm sorry, direct canonical quotes are somehow not valid when they don't support you?

In this case, you McBeefy, you need to respond to the post, not facepalm. Though LS has not responded by what he meant when he said blocking a dozen blaster bolts was a better feat than keeping a single raindrop from hitting bane during the course of a driving rain.