Captain America vs. Iron Fist

Originally posted by jalek moye
so his body staying in peak physical condition makes him a better fighter? Danny always keep his chi as good as it cane be and is trying to make it better that doesn't count? Him training just as often doesn't count? Danny is not just more powerful he is more skilled as well thanks to the previous Iron Fist helping him out. Once again his experience over Danny doesn't mean much when he has beaten people more experienced than both of them.

Their skill showings are basically equal all you have for evidence is an inferior Danny years ago saying he was less skilled. He has gotten much better over the years both through just different writers and through on panel learning. That fight doesn't apply to how things are currently.

Not just because he keeps himself in peak condition. But because he's been fighting battles years before and is a MORE EXPERIENCED fighter hands down.

So Cap hasn't gotten better at all right? He's the same skill level as before? I don't think so...

Originally posted by Mindset

WTF?! You post the craziest gifs lol.

You've never seen Fight Club?

He may have but it's not like all people show the same progression u can't assume he went up the same amount as Danny. And like I said Danny has beaten people more experienced than Steve and if u don't found the time loop Steve is barely more experienced them him if at all. Counting it doesn't change he fact that Both of them have defeated much more experienced foes then eah other.

Originally posted by Deadline
No I don't. I don't agree with you therefore that means I don't understand the english language.

Sorry mate I've seen very few of those and millions of other examples of it not being mentioned. Wow I actually had a good reason to disagree. Maybe you should post these examples instead of being obnoxious.

Originally posted by Deadline
Hell I even pointed out to you that Namor could have pulled his punches.

Originally posted by jalek moye
He may have but it's not like all people show the same progression u can't assume he went up the same amount as Danny. And like I said Danny has beaten people more experienced than Steve and if u don't found the time loop Steve is barely more experienced them him if at all. Counting it doesn't change he fact that Both of them have defeated much more experienced foes then eah other.

Cap is regarded among his peers as being a master strategist. Steve's mind is also enhanced and processes information faster than Danny's can. Steve is tactical superior and in a fight that means everything...

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Steve already told Danny to his face that he is better i.e. more skilled and a better fighter.

Didn't IF state in the caption box that Cap's technique was basic or something similar?

Marvelknight, have you read IF comics from say, the last 5 or so years, just wondering?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Didn't IF state in the caption box that Cap's technique was basic or something similar?

But it's Steve's tactically sound mind which allows him too use such basic techniques with great efficiency against a opponent who's technique is more advanced. But like Danny, over the years Cap has gotten better, skill wise and feats...

Originally posted by Mindset
Marvelknight, have you read IF comics from say, the last 5 or so years, just wondering?

Yes but not in his own title.

Originally posted by Mindset
Haha, I love this.

Can Danny fight for 3 hours and not get tired?

Can Danny take a bullet to the head and live?

Can Danny make a salmon omelette?

Who the phuck cares, none of that matters in this fight.

Since when does having increased stamina not be able to help in a fight? Unless your one of those silly thinkers that believes Danny is ending this quick.(which he's not)

Since when does healing a bullet to the head in 12 minutes, not be help full in healing less then fatal wounds in a fight?

Next you'll say something silly that Cap's mind enhancement won't help either. But in a battle that is such a chess match with these two. It will help keep him a step or two ahead of the game.

Here is Steve telling himself that he thinks even faster then the friggin Super Adaptoid.(this was after the original Adaptoid changed and upgraded as he copied Golaiths strength, Hawk arrow skills, and Wasps zapper, and Caps techniques.)

Obviously it didn't Copy all of Cap's traits "I can still think faster"

Actually now that I think about it Cell from DBZ looks like the Super Adaptoid......LOL

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Since when does having increased stamina not be able to help in a fight? Unless your one of those silly thinkers that believes Danny is ending this quick.(which he's not)

Since when does healing a bullet to the head in 12 minutes, not be help full in healing less then fatal wounds in a fight?

Next you'll say something silly that Cap's mind enhancement won't help either. But in a battle that is such a chess match with these two. It will help keep him a step or two ahead of the game.

Here is Steve telling himself that he thinks even faster then the friggin Super Adaptoid.(this was after the original Adaptoid changed and upgraded as he copied Golaiths strength, Hawk arrow skills, and Wasps zapper, and Caps speed/agility.)

Obviously it didn't Copy all of Cap's traits "I can still think faster"

Because he isn't healing fast enough during the fight for it to make a difference.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Read more comics, FFS. I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove how prevalent "rolling with the blow" is if you've already made up your mind.

Thats funny thought I had been reading comics for 100s of years and have owned tons of comics. Well I guess not only do I not understand the english language I need to read more comics. Yes sir I'll get right to it, by the way anything else you would like? Would you like a red carpet laid out for you everytime you enter the forum, how about a marching band?

I'm not sure if I said I made my mind up, you're the one running your mouth, maybe thats it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

So you're the only one who's allowed to provide a perfectly plausible explanation to preserve a scene as it's depicted and avoid banishing a showing as PIS? Good to know.

I'm not the one telling people that they don't understand the english language and ordering people to read more comics.

No you haven't provided a plausible explanation. Spiderman pulls his punches, Namor is a good guy and is obvoulsy not going to use full force so it's not a good example of street levelers rolling with blows from bricks because they will be using full force. Unless you're refering to instances were it's clear he was, you did not specify you just refered to them taking blows from Namor.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because Danny has enhanced stamina and the fight isn't going to last for enough time, hour(s), for Caps to make a difference.

Because he isn't healing fast enough during the fight for it to make a difference.

Proof for Danny's enhanced stamina? I'm sure he can go longer then normal but I've never seen a enhanced stamina reference for Danny. And I know his chi helps against poisons.

I'm mean Logan himself called Cap the energizer bunny of the spandex kind.

Cap's healing will help at least for wearing down. If he can heal a bullet to the head in friggin 12 minutes obviously it will help Mindset. And has even healed burns on the fly as he enemies watched. Cap is no Logan but to say it doesn't help is wrong.

Why would I need to prove something that is obvious, look at his fights.

No, it's not obvious, as it has not shown to help much in his comic fights, if at all.

Originally posted by Mindset
Why would I need to prove something that is obvious, look at his fights.

No, it's not obvious, as it has not shown to help much in his comic fights, if at all.

You have no proof. Got it. Just like Cap heals burns on the fly.

You make up stuff on the fly.

Good to know.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
You have no proof. Got it. Just like Cap heals burns on the fly.

You make up stuff on the fly.

Good to know.

You even said you think he can go longer than normal.

The proof is in his fights where he showed enhanced stamina, which is why I said look at his fights.

What is wrong with you?

Originally posted by Mindset
How am I making up that IF has more than human stamina, you'd have to be a complete idiot to think otherwise.

You even said you think he can go longer than normal.

What is wrong with you?

longer than normal doesn't neccesarily mean enhanced.

Originally posted by Deadline
longer than normal doesn't neccesarily mean enhanced.