Captain America vs. Iron Fist

Started by Daredevil127 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
How am I making up that IF has more than human stamina, you'd have to be a complete idiot to think otherwise.

You even said you think he can go longer than normal.

What is wrong with you?

Going longer then normal is not enhanced. I believe Danny, Batman, Daredevil, Elektra can all push themselves and there stamina is above normal athletic folks. But it doesn't mean it's enhanced on a level like Cap.

Not my fault you don't get it.

Originally posted by Mindset
That's exactly what it means...

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Going longer then normal is not enhanced. I believe Danny, Batman, Daredevil, Elektra can all push themselves and there stamina is above normal athletic folks. But it doesn't mean it's enhanced on a level like Cap.

Not my fault you don't get it.

Hell you might as well classify atheletes as enhanced with that def.

It's not my fault you don't have a basic grasp of the English language.

I never said it was on Cap's level.

But you never proved it's enhanced.

Better then average is not enhanced.

The proof is in these little things called fights that comic characters regularly engage in.

Lol at being better than average, everyone of the characters you mentioned have stamina better than any human athlete. This is basic knowledge.

Look you're just trolling now.

How am I trolling, by expecting people to have basic knowledge of the characters being discussed?

Originally posted by Deadline
A clone of Cap took a bullet to the head and chest and didn't die. Clones tend to be inferior.

Emphasis on 'tend to be'.

I'm not going to argue that the clone is better, just that unless there's a statement that he's inferior in healing we can just say that Cap can do better than that.

Better is not enhanced.

Your proof is failed since other characters like Daredevil, Batman, Elektra show it. Yet there is not enhanced despite there impressive showings that they regularly engage. Its regular stamina.

Its like saying Cain Velasquez from the UFC has shown better stamina then his opponents. Doesn't mean he has enhanced stamina...LOL

In the third Arc of the Immortal Iron Fist Danny was forced to fight all day nearly non stop to the point of near death for weeks. After all that during one of the long periods of fighting he fought a fake Iron Fist, an actual Iron Fist, ran all the way across the 8th city, fought hordes of demons and escaped just to have to stop Davos from killing another Iron Fist. All this happened right after enough with no time for a break and him showing no signs of slowing down.

In the first Arc he engaged Hydra all around the city just fine without becoming to tired or anything. He than did the same thing in a train station, ran with Orson to his building just to engage a hundred more Hydra with Crane daughters while also taking on Davos with no sign of fatigue during the fights.

I can show all those scans and dozens more if you need it.

He has enhanced Stamina it's just not as high as Cap's crazy stamina.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Emphasis on 'tend to be'.

I'm not going to argue that the clone is better, just that unless there's a statement that he's inferior in healing we can just say that Cap can do better than that.

Yeah thats kinda my point....in fact it is.

Their stamina is enhanced meaning it is superior to any human athlete.

I hope you're only pretending to be this dense.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Better is not enhanced.

Your proof is failed since other characters like Daredevil, Batman, Elektra show it. Yet there is not enhanced despite there impressive showings that they regularly engage. Its regular stamina.

Its like saying Cain Velasquez from the UFC has shown better stamina then his opponents. Doesn't mean he has enhanced stamina...LOL


But for the purpose of this debate, what exactly draws the line between 'better than human' and 'enhanced'?

Originally posted by Mindset
Their stamina is enhanced meaning it is superior to any human athlete.

I hope you're only pretending to be this dense.

Thats doesn't mean it's enhanced.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats doesn't mean it's enhanced.
If you don't know what enhanced means, perhaps.

Originally posted by jalek moye
In the third Arc of the Immortal Iron Fist Danny was forced to fight all day nearly non stop to the point of near death for weeks. After all that during one of the long periods of fighting he fought a fake Iron Fist, an actual Iron Fist, ran all the way across the 8th city, fought hordes of demons and escaped just to have to stop Davos from killing another Iron Fist. All this happened right after enough with no time for a break and him showing no signs of slowing down.

In the first Arc he engaged Hydra all around the city just fine without becoming to tired or anything. He than did the same thing in a train station, ran with Orson to his building just to engage a hundred more Hydra with Crane daughters while also taking on Davos with no sign of fatigue during the fights.

I can show all those scans and dozens more if you need it.

He has enhanced Stamina it's just not as high as Cap's crazy stamina.

Daredevil has a feat of fighting and pushing himself through hell and back. So does he have enhanced stamina now too? And has fought for a whole day.

And yet even his stamina is not enhanced. Lots of characters have those type of feats from Batman to Daredevil.

Point is there stamina is not directly pointed out in a manner that they emphasize as they do for Steve. When it comes to being a actual special advantage.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Daredevil has a feat of fighting and pushing himself through hell and back. So does he have enhanced stamina now too? And has fought for a whole day.

And yet even his stamina is not enhanced. Lots of characters have those type of feats from Batman to Daredevil.

Point is there stamina is not directly pointed out in a manner that they emphasize as they do for Steve. When it comes to being a actual special advantage.

Yes, that does mean their stamina is enhanced...

It doesn't have to be on the level of Cap's.

That's like saying Spiderman doesn't have enhanced/superhuman strength because he isn't as strong as Superman, it's inane.

So unless it states that their stamina is enhanced it doesn't count? Despite the feats showing it? Iron Fist's stamina ahsn't said it's not either although I'm pretty sure I can find captions talking about how the chi of sho-lao allows him to go for days and stuff.

Does the same apply for strength and durability because a lot of the cap arguments involve that when it's stated that his isn't that high?

Same with reflexes do we not count clearly enhanced and superhuman reflexes for chars unless it's stated?

I think Cap's stamina wouldn't come to play much here. I mean unless you see this fight lasting more than a day.

Originally posted by jalek moye
So unless it states that their stamina is enhanced it doesn't count? Despite the feats showing it? Iron Fist's stamina ahsn't said it's not either although I'm pretty sure I can find captions talking about how the chi of sho-lao allows him to go for days and stuff.

Does the same apply for strength and durability because a lot of the cap arguments involve that when it's stated that his isn't that high?

Same with reflexes do we not count clearly enhanced and superhuman reflexes for chars unless it's stated?


All of Batman's good feats would be worthless if that were the case.

Pretty sneaky, Cap fans. biscuits

A statement saying the chi of sho-lao aids his endurance is better then feats of long fights since many characters who are not enhanced have those type of feats and it doesn't mean they have enhanced stamina.

This is the type of proof that I'm asking since Mind Set couldn't prove much but just speculates.

Other wise then every top name like Batman and under the sun has enhanced stamina......LOL. But I don't think that's the case.