Originally posted by Nephthys
You think that she was 'charging' her attack while simultaneously listening in on the conversation through the Force? Well woman can multi-task I guess....... 😬
Originally posted by Nephthys
And yeah it is an argument against her going to attack. She had no intention of attacking before they Council forced her to. Hell, the entire point of everything she did with the Exile was to shove him in their faces about how ****ing awesome he became under her tutalage. She wasn't intending to kill them when she went there (that you can prove >:3 ).
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, he wasn't in combat.Because he's stunned the party. Do you suppose that a Force-user can charge up an ability, use another ability and then use the charged up ability?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh and with the case of Kreia also telepathically listen in on a conversation whilst doing so? Yeah, I don't think so.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And 'resting potential?' Is Kreia coming into this fight after pulling a few all-nighters?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed, as much as I love Kotor 2 and **** it, it is wildly inconsistent on some aspects and really annoyingly vague and hard to understand on others. That the attack is invisible in the Betrayal scene would be because its actually a cutscene, and so graphical aspects may be different.
Originally posted by Nephthys
However:And also Chris Avellone brought this out that changed the look again:
This one is the canonical one. It was brought out the latest and by the guy in charge of Kotor 2, effectively retconning it.
Theres also these little factoids:
"Darth Traya teaches the newly christened Darth Nihilus to harness his life-draining gift to radical heights -- so effectively, in fact, that Nihilus saps Traya's powers in a calculated double cross." -- KotOR Campaign Guide, page 160. (again, thank you Gideon 😉 )
So, yeah, its the same move.
So it is not the same move as N. uses.
Explain why and how this would be the case please. I doubt she'll freak out at having a dude run towards her. ***** got balls.
The point is that combat includes both offensive and defensive measures, often in tandem. Even Luke can't use every technique at once; he has to take himself out of the fight during Invincible to cast an illusion over Jaina. Had he been forced to defend himself during the battle, the illusion would have been shattered.
Thank you for the compliment.
Your point might stand if the ability was actually a defensive action at all. It isn't something that can block the attack and its not something you can do after you've been hit either so its useless. Furthermore its an ability to nullify a [b]diffferent attack. And theres no way Vader will be able to modify it in the milliseconds he'll have before being completely cut off from the Force. [/B]
You've spent a lot of words about how Kreia only has to gesture, and then Vader dies. Let's talk about how Kreia dies. Vader doesn't have to gesture to initiate his trademark Force Choke. Vader doesn't even have to have eye contact- the attack has been used from lightyears away. Vader has mammoth strength at his disposal (have you played TFU?) and could simply apply that force (lowercase 'f'😉 to Kreia's temple and be done with it.
See, it's easy to say that your character will simply one shot the opposition, isn't it?
Originally posted by Zampanó
Yeah no. Doesn't work like that. You get to either pick up the newest canon version (which shows N.'s gigadrain to look very much like the Dark Reaper)
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The Dark Reaper is pink. 😐
Pink fog to be exact. Nihilus' drain is quite clearly black smoke.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Black Smoke Monster attack is the kewlest.
Sounds like Barry.
The eagerness with which the opposition is embracing the notion that the Dark Reaper’s drain is incompatible with that of Nihilus or Kreia is perplexing to me, when the evidence so strongly indicates that they are, in fact, the same.
In this interview, Chris Avellone says the following with regards to Nihilus’s drain:
Chris Avellone
As much as Nihilus embraced the Dark Side’s Force talent of consuming force sensitives (and other life, such as the mass Mandalorian slaughter), the Exile took the higher ground and cut himself off from the pull of such power. As powerful as Nihilus’ ability is in the short term, the drawback is that it robs the user of almost identity but hunger, which is why is never employed by the Sith Lords of old... who had no wish to sublimate their identities for any reason.
Though the game, campaign guide, and Avellone make no secret that the technique originated with the ancient Sith, here, Avellone explains why they didn’t use it: They feared the loss of their personalities and very identities.
Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide, page 109
Created by ancient Sith Lords during the Great Hyperspace War, the Dark Reaper is a Force-draining weapon rediscovered by the Krath and used in the Great Sith War. At its heart is a device known as the Force Harvester, which drains the life essence from all living things around it.
Here, we come to understand that the Dark Reaper is also a device of ancient Sith origin, utilizing a suspiciously similar technique. Use of the Dark Reaper enables the Sith to make use of the Force drain without succumbing to its identity-stealing nature.
With regards to the role of Force bonds in the technique, I don't see what they have to do with it. Did Kreia form a Force bond with the Jedi Masters she killed? Did Nihilus with the colony of Katarr?
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
The eagerness with which the opposition is embracing the notion that the Dark Reaper’s drain is incompatible with that of Nihilus or Kreia is perplexing to me, when the evidence so strongly indicates that they are, in fact, the same.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You yourself admitted that a machine can't establish Force bonds, which is how the attack is done.
With regards to the role of Force bonds in the technique, I don't see what they have to do with it. Did Kreia form a Force bond with the Jedi Masters she killed? Did Nihilus with the colony of Katarr?
I am not explaining it again.