Originally posted by KingD19
Apparently Cap's metabolism is fast enough to include a healing factor. He got shot 3 times with an assault rifle in Winter Soldier, and no mention is made in Ultron. So he seemed to have just healed being shot.Cap takes all 3 of these contests. Especially after WS, and even more after Civil War.
Sure he healed from the gunshots. But they hurt him bad.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Sure he healed from the gunshots. But they hurt him bad.
My point is that Cap can tank most things, and heal what he can't tank.
He's more durable than Marv in pretty much every area. Was Marv ever shot with high grade assault rifle rounds?
And in the 3 matches Armwrestling, getting wailed on by Ozy, and a slugfest, Cap should easily take all 3.
He's stronger than Marv by a good deal. He's tougher. ANd he's a better fighter, faster, etc...
Originally posted by golem370
Marv I am pretty sure after awhile healed from stuff and do you really think he could take the electric chair even once I would have to see it to believe it. Strength to close to call.
I absolutely think Cap could tank the electric chair. He tanked those stun rods easy enough. It annoyed him but did nothing to stop him.
How is strength too close to call? In the first movie his almost equal Red Skull was denting steel, Cap punched through reinforced sub glass, held up a motorcycle with 3 women on it with ease. He lifted what was easily a multi-ton girder off Bucky, held up a car in Ultron, etc...
Marv's strength is good, but not in the same class as Cap.
Originally posted by FrothByte
What are Cap's best blunt trauma feats that DON'T involve his shield?
Falling from above cloud level to the ocean. Impact normally would have turned him into paste, but he just dives right in. One of the soldiers even asks if he just jumped with no parachute, and Rumlow is like, "Yeeeah. He does that all the time."
He jumped and fell from one Hellicarrier to another a few hundred feet down. Rolled right back up to his feet.
He took a full on hit from Quicksilver that spun him a good ways into the air; he wasn't even hurt, just surprised.
He got his face pounded by Bucky's robot arm which was strong enough to rip out a steering column, catch his shield thrown at full strength, and destroy concrete. Bucky got a bunch of free shots from a great position; barely even split Cap's nose.
He tanked hits from Loki, Ultron 2.0 or 3.0(upgraded), Red Skull, and Bucky. Two are in his own range, while Loki and Ultron above him. Nothing slowed him down.
He got exploded on that bus, and was just fine.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet he was less hurt by the list of things king mentioned, all of which deal far more damage than a bullet.
Not quite.
1. Diving into water from aircraft - we need to quantify just how high the jump was. World record for highest dive is around 200 ft. if I'm not mistaken, so it's not impossible to do this. Plus, these divers jumped into a stagnant pool of water. Cap jumped into the ocean, and waves help a lot in breaking water tension. If we can get an estimate of how high Cap dove from then we can clarify just how good a durability feat this was.
2. Jumping from one Hellicarrier to another - I'll have to review this. Was this from TWS? Anyway, will get back to you once I've rewatched.
3. Getting hit by Quicksilver - Hawkeye got hit by Quicksilver just a few seconds before Cap and Hawkeye wasn't seriously hurt either. So this isn't exactly a good durability feat for Cap
4. Took hits from Loki - IIRC he only took 1 direct shot from Loki (please correct me if I'm wrong) and that hit threw him back several feet and it clearly hurt him. He didn't exactly tank the hit. Sure, Loki was stronger than anyone Marv has faced, but I doubt Cap can take multiple hits from Loki.
6. Took hits from Bucky's robotic arm - as far as I'm concerned, this is the best durability feat from Cap yet. He took numerous hits from that hand and didn't even suffer a broken nose. Of course, he was completely out of it by the end. But yeah, I'll agree this was a great durability feat that Marv doesn't have anything against.
But what Marv has is better durability regarding gun wounds. And I just love it how everyone keeps trying to avoid this topic, even in the Cap vs. Slade discussions.
Then again, the durability test does say it's just Ozy with his hands so I guess guns aren't in the equation.
Originally posted by Silent Master
There are no guns in this thread, so Cap's far superior blunt damage feats matter more.
I'm pretty sure Marv has some pretty good blunt durability feats as well but my memory is somewhat rusty with Sin City movies. For now I'll concede to your argument till I can rewatch Sin City.