[QUOTE=13516839]Originally posted by DARTH POWER
[B](You forgot Intangibility.. TP and Phasing can easily be 2 HUGE deal breakers. Especially when we're talking about one of the most powerful telepaths in comics, who also has enough strength and speed to go toe to toe with Supes without TP or Phasing..)
Didnt forget, Intangibility wont work so well since Supes can also go intangible via speed and has affected intangible beings with heat vision
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Someone posted a scan of Martian Manhunter telling Superman he can't enter his mind because it is too formidable or some shit like that.
The only times Jonn has had issues with Supes in regards to Tp is when he is entering Supes mind as a favour or some other entity is affecting Supes mind.
I can think of three examples of the top of my head when Jonn has messed with Supes head with no visible effort.
These threads are pointless. The logical/intelligent posters always back Jonn, while the ignorant/fanboys will always go with big blue, and you just can't change that.
Originally posted by Martian_mind😂
The only times Jonn has had issues with Supes in regards to Tp is when he is entering Supes mind as a favour or some other entity is affecting Supes mind.I can think of three examples of the top of my head when Jonn has messed with Supes head with no visible effort.
These threads are pointless. The logical/intelligent posters always back Jonn, while the ignorant/fanboys will always go with big blue, and you just can't change that.
Originally posted by paisapowerDidnt forget, Intangibility wont work so well since Supes can also go intangible via speed and has affected intangible beings with heat vision
Well SBP's HV went right through an Intangible MM, so that would suggest the Supes HV would have no effect either.
As for Supes Intangibility, how many times has he even used that?? Im guessing he cant do it with the same ease as MM.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well SBP's HV went right through an Intangible MM, so that would suggest the Supes HV would have no effect either.As for Supes Intangibility, how many times has he even used that?? Im guessing he cant do it with the same ease as MM.
This is CIS off Superman, so how many times he's done it is irrelevant.
Also, he can do it probably with greater ease (or speed) than MM. He became intangible almost instantaneously against ultra fast attacks of DD.
has mm ever used tp while phased? has he ever used tp while physically hammering away at someone? seems he MUST have, but most times i recall him really going hardcore tp, he's off in the distance, or out of the battle, concentrating on his tp as opposed to multi-tasking with it. i'm sure if someone reminds me, i'll recall several times it happened, but off-hand i can't really think of any times.
even if he DID use tp, it seems to me, given their past showings, that it could stagger jonn as easily as it could clark. the force of being thrown out of supes' head could just as easily leave jonn open to supes's attacks.
Originally posted by leonidasThis sounds reasonable. Too reasonable. Stop it. crackers
has mm ever used tp while phased? has he ever used tp while physically hammering away at someone? seems he MUST have, but most times i recall him really going hardcore tp, he's off in the distance, or out of the battle, concentrating on his tp as opposed to multi-tasking with it. i'm sure if someone reminds me, i'll recall several times it happened, but off-hand i can't really think of any times.even if he DID use tp, it seems to me, given their past showings, that it could stagger jonn as easily as it could clark. the force of being thrown out of supes' head could just as easily leave jonn open to supes's attacks.
I also think that J'onn could use less overt telepathy. I agree outright controlling Superman is a risky proposition, but more subtle uses (like illusions) might be less prone to feedback.