Originally posted by Philosophía
I love you, too. Seriously though, I went through all this effort to get you mad, and you shrugg it off?Maybe I shouldn't have said all of this doesn't matter anymore.
I pointed out the futility of this thread a while back son. I feel no rage, only a bizarre mixture of amusement and pity if you believe what you posted, or vague admiration for your level of dedication if you were trolling.
Originally posted by Martian_mindSeriously everybody that says that MM can't control or mindrape Supes needs to realize that it kinda goes against his nature to do such things. WHen Fernus took over besides not being not weak to fire there was no real change in powerset or abilities. If MM was evil and actively trying to be evil he'd basically be Fernus. MM is seriously underrated on these forums. He maynot be quite as physically strong but he more than makes up for that with shapeshifting, hf, density, phase shifting, and telepathy.
I pointed out the futility of this thread a while back son. I feel no rage, only a bizarre mixture of amusement and pity if you believe what you posted, or vague admiration for your level of dedication if you were trolling.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not at all.IIRC he was a good deal weaker and all he was said to have was a slight speed boost and radio senses instead of super hearing.
iirc it was that he was more powerful than the superman that came before him, but superman got an amp afterwards that made him more powerful than the previous version (that being the blue one).
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
mhmm
strength, speed (travelling, movement, perception), damage soak (in the sense that it takes more to ko him usually than it does j'onn).
sure, jonn is close to him in some cases, and has his own abilities that set him apart, but i just think kal can overcome jonn more readily than the other way around.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
wait a sec, i need some clarification on this but isn't the manhunter essentially amorphous and thus immune to physical damage when PIS/CIP/CIS is tossed out? even apocalypse exhibited this in his career, even in a near death state with PIS/CIP/CIS being factors within comics.
and yet J'onn has been hurt on many occasions. Unless you want to toss out every occurence of that.
Besides, when he takes on a human-ish form, I see no reason why he wouldn't be that way internally too (if much denser). I mean, he's had sex with human women, so he must at least some of the time take on human (though more powerful obviously) characteristics biologically.
but yeah, if i was him i'd never go in to a fight without being completely malleable.
Originally posted by -Pr-I see him close to matching Superman in each of those areas (closer than you) except for traveling speed I guess and being able to use his malleable durability to blunt a great deal of damage. Superman can certainly dig deeper, but it seems more like a Buu vs Goku dynamic in terms of who can soak up more damage.
strength, speed (travelling, movement, perception), damage soak (in the sense that it takes more to ko him usually than it does j'onn).sure, jonn is close to him in some cases, and has his own abilities that set him apart, but i just think kal can overcome jonn more readily than the other way around.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I see him close to matching Superman in each of those areas (closer than you) except for traveling speed I guess and being able to use his malleable durability to blunt a great deal of damage. Superman can certainly dig deeper, but it seems more like a Buu vs Goku dynamic in terms of who can soak up more damage.
I don't watch Dragonball, so have no idea what that means.
Originally posted by Harbinger
You're gonna set off carver's decoder ring by mentioning DBZ.Also:
When? I don't remember this.
With Scorch. IIRC it was heavily implied.