Gender roles and equality.

Started by Tha C-Master16 pages

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
True, true. Meh.
I keep telling myself to get off of this site, but I always read something I disagree with and being outspoken I have to post.

I generally come and go though, I'll probably be absent for a while once I've had my fill of posting overall.

I'm not sure which is worse, arguing stuff like this or people getting mad over comic book stuff? Can't decide.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your points where to play the victim, complain about Oprah and mop commercials being unfair to men and to further demonstrate your grudge against women. I clearly didn't ignore any of your "points".

Must you really try and validate yourself so pathetically each time? We get it, you're uber-awesome and are out to help the world and your dreams and money worked for you. Check and check.

"Mangina" again. Brilliant.

Yes you actually did. You don't answer questions either. I was responding to something he said. How was I playing the victim? I haven't been divorced. I was however pointing the inequities in society (which is the thread topic btw, you should try it sometime). If it were a woman saying this you'd be all for it. I mention an inequality against men and it's a "grudge towards women" lol. Gotta love it. Just because you like fat, short haircut, bitchy broads you find here doesn't mean we all have to kid. I like hot women who know what a skillet is, kthx.

What do men gain from being married that they don't otherwise?

I'm glad you realize that. No need to validate anything, you can look into it or not, I don't care. You tried to pull your "you're just some loser online blah blah blah." And it didn't work, because it isn't true. Lol. You need to work on your red herrings. God it feels good being this awesome. 😎 Hehe.

Brilliant because it's so true. 😉

I want to see a bit more equality in the abortion and divorce process. So do feminists.

If a woman wants to take the role as house cleaner, babysitter, and food maker, I'm okay with that. I wouldn't expect her to do it if she worked, however. I'm also okay with the exact opposite: man stays at home while the woman works.

Our modern world can do this for us and it's great. 🙂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes you actually did. You don't answer questions either. I was responding to something he said. How was I playing the victim? I haven't been divorced. I was however pointing the inequities in society (which is the thread topic btw, you should try it sometime). If it were a woman saying this you'd be all for it.

I mention an equality against men and it's a "grudge towards women" lol. Gotta love it. Just because you like fat, short haircut, bitchy broads you find here doesn't mean we all have to kid. I like hot women who know what a skillet is, kthx.

What do men gain from being married that they don't otherwise?

I'm glad you realize that. No need to validate anything, you can look into it or not, I don't care. You tried to pull your "you're just some loser online blah blah blah." And it didn't work, because it isn't true. Lol. You need to work on your red herrings. God it feels good being this awesome. 😎 Hehe.

Brilliant because it's so true. 😉

I've answered your questions with the exception of the "what good acts have you done", cos it's irrelevant here. You just didn't like the answers I gave, probably cos they punched holes in your rants and blanket generalizations.

More rants. You go get them hot skillet women, boy.

I can't speak for other men. Again, blanket generalizations are your thing.

Again, trying to convince me or yourself of your shortcomings?

Yeah, must be just that.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well this happens in westernized countries like US, UK, Austrailia, and Canada. This is why (especially in America) you see many women that are so overweight. They know once they get the name signed they can do what they want so they don't have the incentive to keep the weight down or put out.

And before someone jumps on me it is a statistical fact that women gain weight after marriage and even more weight after kids. Of course they do. When they are married and have kids they get more money than if they were single and trying to get a guy. This is also why they lose the weight after they divorce.

I think men and women should speak to each other about expectations in a marriage. Men are visual and sexual attraction is critical to them. It's no different than a man who didn't want to work, she'd leave him too. These should be discussed up front.

The weight gain would have nothing to do with the fact that most women don't have time or money to hit the gym when they've got to take care of a child as well as hold down a full time job, or the fact that it could be from emotional trauma from ousting something out of one's vagina.

Nope, it's because we know we already got that paper.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've answered your questions with the exception of the "what good acts have you done", cos it's irrelevant here. You just didn't like the answers I gave, probably cos they punched holes in your rants and blanket generalizations.

More rants. You go get them hot skillet women, boy.

I can't speak for other men. Again, blanket generalizations are your thing.

Again, trying to convince me or yourself of your shortcomings?

Yeah, must be just that.

You have not answered many of my questions you danced and insulted. What benefit do men have in getting married in this society that they don't get otherwise?

More truth. I prefer women from other countries. If you like them large and in charge you are more than welcome to that. 🙂

Yes you can. What benefit do men get? They can do all of the same things they could getting married without paying money so none.

I'm convincing you of your shortcomings, projecting your failure at life on me won't help the issue. I'm satisfied with myself and am constantly improving.

Lol, you're funny. This is actually kind of fun. 😛

Originally posted by dadudemon
I want to see a bit more equality in the abortion and divorce process. So do feminists.

If a woman wants to take the role as house cleaner, babysitter, and food maker, I'm okay with that. I wouldn't expect her to do it if she worked, however. I'm also okay with the exact opposite: man stays at home while the woman works.

Our modern world can do this for us and it's great. 🙂

I agree.

Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
The weight gain would have nothing to do with the fact that most women don't have time or money to hit the gym when they've got to take care of a child as well as hold down a full time job, or the fact that it could be from emotional trauma from ousting something out of one's vagina.

Nope, it's because we know we already got that paper.

Really? Women from other countries do it just fine. I'm sure it's just coincidence though about the obesity here right? I mean other countries don't have the divorce laws here and they also have mistresses. More pressure for women to stay fit, because if they don't their men go elsewhere.
It's statistically proven fact women put on weight in long term relationships and marriage and lose it afterwards. What's the food that causes women to gain the most weight?

Wedding cake.

There is a lot of inequality which their shouldn't be. Some women still don't get paid for doing the same amount of work. Some men get shafted for alimony they really shouldn't be paying. As naive as it seems, things SHOULD be fair, but I don't see that happening.

Some men still treat women like shit. Some women believe that, as a man, if you don't have a fancy car and a nice house that you aren't worth crap.

Also, call me old fashioned, but marriage is still relevant imo, and if i loved someone that actualy wanted to have my baby, she can put on all the pregnancy pounds she likes as long as it's not too unhealthy.

Possibly off topic, but i don't care, mmm

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You have not answered many of my questions you danced and insulted. What benefit do men have in getting married in this society that they don't get otherwise?

More truth. I prefer women from other countries. If you like them large and in charge you are more than welcome to that. 🙂

Yes you can. What benefit do men get? They can do all of the same things they could getting married without paying money so none.

I'm convincing you of your shortcomings, projecting your failure at life on me won't help the issue. I'm satisfied with myself and am constantly improving.

Lol, you're funny. This is actually kind of fun. 😛

For one, tax breaks in most states.

Awesome. You go get those women.

No, not really, as I can't speak for every man and why they got married, besides the [possible] tax breaks. You can continue to claim that only women benefit from marriage, yet refuse to show any proof other than rants.

Yes, cos I'm the one that every other post goes on a diatribe about how awesome they are and all the great things they plan to do. (that was sarcasm again)

Weee.....

Originally posted by -Pr-
There is a lot of inequality which their shouldn't be. Some women still don't get paid for doing the same amount of work. Some men get shafted for alimony they really shouldn't be paying. As naive as it seems, things SHOULD be fair, but I don't see that happening.

Some men still treat women like shit. Some women believe that, as a man, if you don't have a fancy car and a nice house that you aren't worth crap.

Also, call me old fashioned, but marriage is still relevant imo, and if i loved someone that actualy wanted to have my baby, she can put on all the pregnancy pounds she likes as long as it's not too unhealthy.

Possibly off topic, but i don't care, mmm

Just hope you find a good one.

In the US and other developed countries many often receive more pay though, that myth was debunked.

Originally posted by Robtard
For one, tax breaks in most states.

Awesome. You go get those women.

No, not really, as I can't speak for every man and why they got married, besides the [possible] tax breaks. You can continue to claim that only women benefit from marriage, yet refuse to show any proof other than rants.

Yes, cos I'm the one that every other post goes on a diatribe about how awesome they are and all the great things they plan to do. (that was sarcasm again)

Weee.....

The costs of marriage outweigh the tax breaks because of the added expense that men have to pay, especially when it is over. So no. It's a statistic that a man's lifestyle improves after a divorce because he has to support himself primarily (even if he is paying out) two don't live cheaply as one because men pay the most expenses. No different than people having kids think that the tax break offsets the cost, it obviously doesn't. At least you answered my question. Even if I disagree. A man is better having his own place and keeping his own assets.

Sure I have. Stats and everything.

Not really, just posting in response to your lousy shaming tactics with no substance. I don't just plan I actually accomplish. 😉

And btw, I don't take these seriously. I'm just posting to kill time, seen too many of these to bother me in the least. I'm sure you're an *ok* person for the most part. 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-

Also, call me old fashioned, but marriage is still relevant imo, and if i loved someone that actualy wanted to have my baby, she can put on all the pregnancy pounds she likes as long as it's not too unhealthy.

Same. To me marriage is relevant for the emotional/romantic aspect. While a lot of laws and other stuff about it can be messed up etc it still has a place to me.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Really? Women from other countries do it just fine. I'm sure it's just coincidence though about the obesity here right? I mean other countries don't have the divorce laws here and they also have mistresses. More pressure for women to stay fit, because if they don't their men go elsewhere.
It's statistically proven fact women put on weight in long term relationships and marriage and lose it afterwards. What's the food that causes women to gain the most weight?

I remember seeing that study a while back. I think it was both men and women though.

Some couples like to keep all sexy and fit, but married people are just fatter than single people generally.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Same. To me marriage is relevant for the emotional/romantic aspect. While a lot of laws and other stuff about it can be messed up etc it still has a place to me.
I have nothing against being with one person if a man chooses to do so. It's just that signing that document to give over your wealth is unnecessary. Which is what you're doing. Signing a document that is approved by the secretary of state (thereby forming a corporation) isn't needed anymore for men. Both genders can work and do their own thing now.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I remember seeing that study a while back. I think it was both men and women though.

Some couples like to keep all sexy and fit, but married people are just fatter than single people generally.

Well men lose weight at first and gain it later.

The thing is men don't "hide" it, they just gain it, and it isn't what women care for. The man generally pays the bills and he expects his woman to look good in return.

Women care more about a man who stops working or can't keep a job.

Try it. Go to your woman one day and say, "You know what, I don't want to work anymore. It's not about money though right, it's about love."

See how she reacts.

C-Master sounds whipped.

I mention an inequality against men and it's a "grudge towards women" lol. Gotta love it. Just because you like fat, short haircut, bitchy broads you find here doesn't mean we all have to kid.

Some of those women have long hair but pull it up to make it short. I digress.

It does make me wonder about the inequaltity reason against women though. Is this a double standard that when there is inequality against women we should all stand up and say yeah, state it sister.

But when pointing out inequality against men, its well who cares they have been charge of society forever so boo hoo, get over it.

It's Chrissy Hyndes said a few years ago..

Originally posted by Omega Vision
C-Master sounds whipped.
No woman stays with me and I damn sure don't pay for them. I guess I need to learn from real men who foolishly pay for sex, and let chicks take their money. Lol.

Originally posted by YankeeWhaler
I mention an inequality against men and it's a "grudge towards women" lol. Gotta love it. Just because you like fat, short haircut, bitchy broads you find here doesn't mean we all have to kid.

Some of those women have long hair but pull it up to make it short. I digress.

It does make me wonder about the inequaltity reason against women though. Is this a double standard that when there is inequality against women we should all stand up and say yeah, state it sister.

But when pointing out inequality against men, its well who cares they have been charge of society forever so boo hoo, get over it.

It's Chrissy Hyndes said a few years ago..

It's double standards about double standards. I want things to be fair and some are outright saying equality is wrong, and it should be biased towards women.

At least they're consistent in their own way.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Clearly. Although no woman stays with me and I damn sure don't pay for them. I guess I'm whipping myself or something. As weird as that sounds.

It's double standards about double standards. I want things to be fair and some are outright saying equality is wrong, and it should be biased towards women.

At least they're consistent in their own way.


You just sound like you have a really maligned view of women in general.

I don't know if I'd call you a misogynist...but yeah...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You just sound like you have a really maligned view of women in general.

I don't know if I'd call you a misogynist...but yeah...

Really? I feel I have an honest view about the honest truth that many men (whipped and otherwise) don't want to face.

My opinion on women in the westernized countries (in general) is not as high as women from other parts of the world because I've been out and seen different things. I also have something to compare it to. Most guys don't because they've seen one things their whole lives and don't wake up until later. So people need to keep in mind I'm not talking about women in other countries except for westernized ones.

But hey what can I say? And no, I have a problem with dumb, immoral, and irresponsible people of any gender, creed, or group. I've made that very clear. Many people in western society fit the description I just put out. Every thing I said is statistically proven and factual as well. People not liking the facts has no bearing on me, but on them.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You just sound like you have a really maligned view of women in general.

I don't know if I'd call you a misogynist...but yeah...

I'd call him developmentally delayed. Still in the cooties phase but now he uses grown up words.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd call him developmentally delayed. Still in the cooties phase but now he uses grown up words.
I'd call you behind the times and in denial. I'm definitely ahead.

Men, feel free to have fun, bang or do whatever, just watch what you do with whatever chick you're with. Focus on your future and have families when you're ready and know the person.

Nothing wrong with what I just said. Good for both parties.

"Women care more about a man who stops working or can't keep a job.

Try it. Go to your woman one day and say, "You know what, I don't want to work anymore. It's not about money though right, it's about love."

See how she reacts."

Yeah I know from experience that does know go over to well. Even when I had a short term health problem, it was an issue.