Originally posted by Marvelknight
I'll go with Bruce 6-10. Equipment/weapons, tactical assessment/strategies are categories that favor Bruce here.
not really. Taskmaster is known to carry at LEAST as much equipment- hawkeye's trick arrows in particular (because they could really be anything here) would cause problems for batman. He also is prone to carrying around a shield like captain america (which can block projectiles, etc).
Taskmaster has mastered the styles of every martial artist that exists in the marvel U, including unique styles (spider man, for instance) that bruce has never seen and won't easily be able to counter.
the opposite is NOT true. Taskmaster has mastered every style bruce knows AND can predict movements. In the unlikely event bruce busts out a style tasky doesn't know, Tasky masters that style instantly on the fly.
in a straight 1 on 1 fight, Taskmaster beats the hell out of batman, just like prometheus did way back in JLA.
with significant time to prep and lay traps, he has a shot to win a few but it would not be easy at all.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
not really. Taskmaster is known to carry at LEAST as much equipment- hawkeye's trick arrows in particular (because they could really be anything here) would cause problems for batman. He also is prone to carrying around a shield like captain america (which can block projectiles, etc).Taskmaster has mastered the styles of every martial artist that exists in the marvel U, including unique styles (spider man, for instance) that bruce has never seen and won't easily be able to counter.
the opposite is NOT true. Taskmaster has mastered every style bruce knows AND can predict movements. In the unlikely event bruce busts out a style tasky doesn't know, Tasky masters that style instantly on the fly.
in a straight 1 on 1 fight, Taskmaster beats the hell out of batman, just like prometheus did way back in JLA.
with significant time to prep and lay traps, he has a shot to win a few but it would not be easy at all.
Knowing all of those styles means what? It's nice to have but Tasksy can't utilize all those style as efficiently as the fighters he got them from. Like Wolverine, Spider-Man or Cap, Tasksy isn't superhuman. Batman still has a good chance here. I'd not sleep on Bruce' fighting skills. And that fight with Prometheus, happened years ago....
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Knowing all of those styles means what? It's nice to have but Tasksy can't utilize all those style as efficiently as the fighters he got them from. Like Wolverine, Spider-Man or Cap, Tasksy isn't superhuman. Batman still has a good chance here. I'd not sleep on Bruce' fighting skills. And that fight with Prometheus, happened years ago....
not necessarily. There are some limitations (his body technically isn't as agile as spidey's, for instance) but he's used their styles before in combat many, many times- And due to the way his powers work, if he executes a maneuver, it's executed perfectly or not at all.
Also, because of his ability to predict movements even Cap's enhanced stats aren't enough to overcome Taskmaster's fighting skills. Taskmaster has not only beaten captain america, he's successfully fought off Cap and Bucky-Cap simultaneously. He's used his superhuman aim (stolen from bullseye or hawkeye, most likely) to take out spiderman in one shot. He fought and beat elektra with his eyes closed (using daredevil's style) despite the fact that he has no radar sense.
Batman is good, but he isn't THAT good- and in the extremely unlikely scenario that batman IS, Taskmaster copies his style and is able to predict his movements in a matter of minutes. In combat, Tasky has every edge here. Batman will have to outsmart him to win, and with no significant prep time I don't see that happening easily.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
not necessarily. There are some limitations (his body technically isn't as agile as spidey's, for instance) but he's used their styles before in combat many, many times- And due to the way his powers work, if he executes a maneuver, it's executed perfectly or not at all.Also, because of his ability to predict movements even Cap's enhanced stats aren't enough to overcome Taskmaster's fighting skills. Taskmaster has not only beaten captain america, he's successfully fought off Cap and Bucky-Cap simultaneously. He's used his superhuman aim (stolen from bullseye or hawkeye, most likely) to take out spiderman in one shot. He fought and beat elektra with his eyes closed (using daredevil's style) despite the fact that he has no radar sense.
Batman is good, but he isn't THAT good- and in the extremely unlikely scenario that batman IS, Taskmaster copies his style and is able to predict his movements in a matter of minutes. In combat, Tasky has every edge here. Batman will have to outsmart him to win, and with no significant prep time I don't see that happening easily.
Cap let Bucky do the fighting because he had more important things at hand. Cap can take down Taskmaster 7-10.
Bruce has fought against opponents who can predict attacks (Lady Shiva). Not sure if that matters much here. Taskmaster can't copy Batman while trying to fight at the same time. Task would need to watch a tap or observe Bruce fighting on the sidelines. But not really during combat. At most Task will copy a move or two not an entire style while fighting.
Also, Bruce is physically superior in strength, and durability. All of those styles Task has means nothing. Batman knows 127. Where's the difference? They both have many fighting styles to use.
im not sure about h2h combat i think TM has the edge. strength both are regular humans with no enhancements so no edge to either. equipment TM usually uses the shield and sword while Batman has all that stuff in his belt including batarangs. Batman is smarter but i think TM is the better fighter so it could go either way
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Also, because of his ability to predict movements even Cap's enhanced stats aren't enough to overcome Taskmaster's fighting skills.
Wrong.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Taskmaster has not only beaten captain america,
I think once, but their last two fights indicate Cap is too much.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
he's successfully fought off Cap and Bucky-Cap simultaneously.
For a split second then got dropped by Cap.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Tbf, his latest mini showed that the longer the battle goes on, the better it is for Tasky, as he can pick up an entire fighting style in two minutes (did it to Don of the Dead and Red Shirt)
yep.
Redshirt is trained in an advanced shi'ar fighting style no one on earth uses, or (presumably) can use. He had alterations made to his skeleton and his brain to be able to learn the style.
Taskmaster learns the style after intentionally holding back and getting the hell beaten out of him. For most of the fight he was intentionally NOT copying redshirt's style. once the gloves came off, he mastered it immediately and overwhelmed him.
taskmaster vs redshirt conclusion
Bruce may know 127 styles, but taskmaster has mastered every fighting style that exists on marvel earth and can master- not learn- new ones instantaneously. Surprising him with a move he doesn't know is nearly impossible, and becomes literally impossible if the fight lasts more than a minute or two.
Tasky also has predictive movement ability, and bruce doesn't. We've already seen batman defeated by prometheus who only had the abilities of the top 30 martial artists of his world. Taskmaster is way, WAY better.
In a straight fight, there is literally no reason to believe Bruce has any edge over taskmaster. He's consistently beaten opponents like cap and spiderman (more than once) who are stronger and faster than batman is- not that there's any reason to assume that bruce is stronger than tasky.
Taskmaster's reflexes and accuracy are flat out better than Batman's, due to copying bullseye/daredevil/hawkeye/etc- unless you think batman has the skills to kill people with toothpicks 100 yards away and cut throats with playing cards.
Taskmaster's standard equipment is better than Batman's. Shield, sword, guns, jets, trick arrows that include disruptors, sonics, poison gas, electricity, explosives, flares, an image inducer to disguise himself (remember this takes place in gotham city) etc etc.
And finally- Taskmaster does not hold back and WILL go for lethal/kill shots if he has the opportunity and bruce won't. Even if they were dead even in skill (and that's not the case here) that would give him the edge.
That's why I'm giving taskmaster the heavy majority. Gotham being batman's home turf gives him a chance for a couple of wins, but batman is at a serious disadvantage unless he has a ton of prep time.
