Originally posted by Juntai
Wally West, Donna Troy, Dick Grayson, Roy Harper, Garth/Aqualad.
That sounds like PIS, especially when you consider that Grayson has taken it to Deathstroke more than once.
Originally posted by Juntai
Now quit derailing the thread with nonsense. 1) I'm not even debating this stuff, I'm just saying it. 2) You're acting like you're rebuttaling things I'm saying or offering counters, but you're not. example; I mention how Batman takes down Lobo man to man, and you give me "he battled Mr Hyde", as if that's a solid comparison.
Stop trying to deliberately twist my words around. You asked me if hes flatened class 100s, in that post you didn't say anything about Lobo and I was not responding to that.
Interestingly enough I mentioned Wolverine as well, which you deliberatly ignored.
Originally posted by Juntai
But if you want to follow me around in the thread trying to get a rise out of me, or prove a point with acting like you're offering counters/debating and debunking, when I'm not even putting real effort into this -- I'll leave you with this;Fact is, point blank, if you want to compare feats straight up, and disregard nothing, just going on what's in the comics, Batman will absolutely destroy Daredevil in a feat war. It wouldn't even be remotely a comparison. He wouldn't even register next to it.
Not let me have my fun. 🙂
and he would possibly beat Deathstroke in a feat war, we all know that he would lose in a fight.
Not to mention that recently Daredevil stalemated Cap in an encounter. You wanna get into a feat war with Cap and Bats and Bats is going to lose. A little bit of common sense needs to be applied to Batman feats, he has high end feats but when you look at his feats as a whole hes still just a top tier street leveler with gadgets.
Originally posted by DeadlineActually, earlier in this thread I posted a scan that happened where Deathstroke was saying Batman couldn't make that shot? That was right after Batman served Deathstroke himself. Deathstroke beat Batman that initial time in a 4 part story in Deathstroke's own series. This used Batman's popularity to help vault Deathstroke into having the number 1 comic at the time. Never again. But the reverse is not true.
That sounds like PIS, especially when you consider that Grayson has taken it to Deathstroke more than once.Stop trying to deliberately twist my words around. You asked me if hes flatened class 100s, in that post you didn't say anything about Lobo and I was not responding to that.
Interestingly enough I mentioned Wolverine as well, which you deliberatly ignored.
and he would possibly beat Deathstroke in a feat war, we all know that he would lose in a fight.
I ignored the Wolverine piece, because I'm not debating this, but while I'm on it? That's nearly as impressive as a guy that yank a star out of space either.
*sigh* Just trolling.
Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, earlier in this thread I posted a scan that happened where Deathstroke was saying Batman couldn't make that shot?
*sigh* So Batman and Taskmaster are going to have a gunfight? I'm not talking about guns I'm talking about h2h.
Originally posted by Juntai
That was right after Batman served Deathstroke himself.
This why you're trolling. That was after Batman jumped Deathstroke and DS beat him down twice, the first time with ease. Even on the third time Batman has to use a weapon to take him down.
Originally posted by Juntai
Deathstroke beat Batman that initial time in a 4 part story in Deathstroke's own series. This used Batman's popularity to help vault Deathstroke into having the number 1 comic at the time. Never again. But the reverse is not true.
Blahblahblahblah. DS has beaten Batman three times.
Originally posted by JuntaiSlade has a weak spot for Dick, but when he's meant to, he dropped Dick with one kick, and on probably at least 5 occasions, served Dick and his team, all at once, just like Batman. 😉
Just because he has a 'weak spot' doesn't mean he won't beat the crap out of him and we can't assume everytime that Nightwind does well is only because DS wants him to, especially when hes held his own against Batgirl Not arguing that DS will beat Nightwing it's just that hes good enough to hold his own on a good day. Hell I'm pretty sure that Batman has an even weaker spot for Nightwing.
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Originally posted by JuntaiI ignored the Wolverine piece, because I'm not debating this, but while I'm on it? That's nearly as impressive as a guy that yank a star out of space either.
Blahblahblahblah. Wolverine can hold his own against the Hulk. Don't worry I'm getting bored and I'm going to ignore you soon.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It was Robin era Grayson and the year one Teen Titans, it's not even worth bring up really.
Thats pathetic like you said it's not even worth bringing up. Really grasping at straws.
Originally posted by Deadline
Just because he has a 'weak spot' doesn't mean he won't beat the crap out of him and we can't assume everytime that Nightwind does well is only because DS wants him to, especially when hes held his own against Batgirl Not arguing that DS will beat Nightwing it's just that hes good enough to hold his own on a good day. Hell I'm pretty sure that Batman has an even weaker spot for Nightwing.
Batman took down Grundy, twice. Beat Gorilla Grodd, traded blows with Metallo, defeated Lobo hand to hand, defeated Aquaman in hand to hand combat. Although didn't defeat her, had the upper hand on Wonder Woman on multiple occasions, etc etc. Daredevil isn't in this class of character when we allow all feats. So, bla bla bla, all you'd like. 🙂
Originally posted by Juntai
What does Wolverine fighting Hulk have to do with Daredevil comparing to Batman?lol.
I think he's saying that Taskmaster downing Wolverine could be PIS or have extenuating circumstances since Wolverine has started to showcase the durability to casually eat and shrug off Class 100 blows.
Originally posted by Juntai
What does Wolverine fighting Hulk have to do with Daredevil comparing to Batman?lol.
Um hes one shoted Wolverine...and Wolverine is tough enough to hold his own against Hulk. See where I'm going with this?
Originally posted by Juntai
It's all ambiguous, Tim's defeated Cass too. Deathstroke outclassed her. So has Batman.
Batgirl has actually held her own against Batman before and beaten Lady Shiva. There are probably circumstances to Tim beating Cass. Anyway it was year one Titans so it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Juntai
Batman took down Grundy, traded blows with Metallo, defeated Lobo hand to hand, etc etc. Daredevil isn't in this class of character when we allow all feats. So, bla bla bla, all you'd like. 🙂
Trading blows with a class 100 character is PIS unless he had a harder suit. DD has held his own against Cap more than once and recently stalemated him in an encounter. Cap beats Batman in a feat war, you lose.
Originally posted by DeadlineMore ABC? 🙁
Trading blows with a class 100 character is PIS unless he had a harder suit. DD has held his own against Cap more than once and recently stalemated him in an encounter. Cap beats Batman in a feat war, you lose.
If you want to match Daredevil to Batman, do it using DAREDEVIL. 🙂 Set up a thread, all canon showings go. I'll be in there when I have time.
Originally posted by Juntai
Oh? ABC?
Batman has held his own against Superman on a few occasions. Superman took down Mandrakk. See where I'm going with this?
Yea because arguing that Batman has taken on LOBO isn't ABC logic either.
Originally posted by Juntai
What does Cassandra Cain have to do with the Titans showing?
Stop trolling. Anyway it was year one titans, irrelevant.
Originally posted by Juntai
Batman beat Shiva too.
When she was distracted? At the end of the day none of that proves that Batman is way above Daredevil.
Originally posted by Juntai
More ABC? 🙁I like how we have to extrapolate from feats Captain America and Wolverine, onto Daredevil, to take them all the way to Taskmaster so he can have a feat war with Batman.
Um I'm not talking about Taskmaster. You said that Batman is way better than Daredevil. You're using ABC logic to prove it as well.
Originally posted by Juntai
If you want to match Daredevil to Batman, do it using DAREDEVIL. 🙂 Set up a thread, all canon showings go. I'll be in there when I have time.
I've pretty much proved you don't know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by DeadlineBatman beat Lobo directly. Not character A had a battle but didn't defeat character B who once upon time had a battle with character C. That's ABC logic, homie.
Yea because arguing that Batman has taken on LOBO isn't ABC logic either.Stop trolling. Anyway it was year one titans, irrelevant.
When she was distracted? At the end of the day none of that proves that Batman is way above Daredevil.
Cassandra was not part of that Titans team, I'd already moved on from that. I was asking why the hell you were saying the Cassandra stuff was irrelevant because of Year One Titans?
In one encounter yes, in another, she surprised attacked him and still got downed.
Batman also went blow for blow with the reboot Karate Kid, although it ended with Batman dissapearing, he was originally surprise attacked and then quickly within a few panels had the upper hand over him for several panels before vanishing from the fight.