Here's a great example from the respect thread-
Cap vs. Taskmaster- Cap has no shield here- though not really relevant, since batman isn't really known to run around with shields either.
Despite the physical advantage, Cap was clearly losing this before surprising Taskmaster by busting out the (rarely seen) energy shield.
Also note that in this fight we see Tasky using explosive arrows, shock arrows, concussive arrows, pistols, sword, shield, and neural darts.
Originally posted by Space M ummyBatman is a master of every martial art, all forms of combat. 🙂 One of the people Prometheus' disc had, was Bruce. lol.
yep.Redshirt is trained in an advanced shi'ar fighting style no one on earth uses, or (presumably) can use. He had alterations made to his skeleton and his brain to be able to learn the style.
Taskmaster learns the style [b]after intentionally holding back and getting the hell beaten out of him.
For most of the fight he was intentionally NOT copying redshirt's style. once the gloves came off, he mastered it immediately and overwhelmed him.taskmaster vs redshirt conclusion
Bruce may know 127 styles, but taskmaster has mastered every fighting style that exists on marvel earth and can master- not learn- new ones instantaneously. Surprising him with a move he doesn't know is nearly impossible, and becomes literally impossible if the fight lasts more than a minute or two.
Tasky also has predictive movement ability, and bruce doesn't. We've already seen batman defeated by prometheus who only had the abilities of the top 30 martial artists of his world. Taskmaster is way, WAY better.
In a straight fight, there is literally no reason to believe Bruce has any edge over taskmaster. He's consistently beaten opponents like cap and spiderman (more than once) who are stronger and faster than batman is- not that there's any reason to assume that bruce is stronger than tasky.
Taskmaster's reflexes and accuracy are flat out better than Batman's, due to copying bullseye/daredevil/hawkeye/etc- unless you think batman has the skills to kill people with toothpicks 100 yards away and cut throats with playing cards.
Taskmaster's standard equipment is better than Batman's. Shield, sword, guns, jets, trick arrows that include disruptors, sonics, poison gas, electricity, explosives, flares, an image inducer to disguise himself (remember this takes place in gotham city) etc etc.
And finally- Taskmaster does not hold back and WILL go for lethal/kill shots if he has the opportunity and bruce won't. Even if they were dead even in skill (and that's not the case here) that would give him the edge.
That's why I'm giving taskmaster the heavy majority. Gotham being batman's home turf gives him a chance for a couple of wins, but batman is at a serious disadvantage unless he has a ton of prep time. [/B]
Originally posted by Juntaiummm
Batman is a master of every martial art, all forms of combat. 🙂 One of the people Prometheus' disc had, was Bruce. lol.
the post you quoted is of a guy using an alien fighting style and being drugged up in order to utilize it like the aliens that created it. pretty sure batman doesn't know that style 😐
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Taskmaster's reflexes and accuracy are flat out better than Batman's, due to copying bullseye/daredevil/hawkeye/etc- unless you think batman has the skills to kill people with toothpicks 100 yards away and cut throats with playing cards.
Bounces a Batarang off of a statue and KOs three men with it.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmark-statue.jpg
Snatches an arrow off the ground and throws it down the barrel of a gun and casues it to backfire.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmark-arrow.jpg
Takes Artemis' arrow out of the air with a Batarang.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmark-artemis.jpg
Deathstroke with enhanced vision, and one of the best assassins/mercenaries in comics, deemed this shot impossible- not only does he make the shot, but he uses it to disarm a man of both of his weapons that's escaping with a high calibre rifle and doesn't even bipod or prone for extra control.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmark-sniperstroke2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmark-sniperstroke3.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmark-sniperstroke4.jpg
He's also taken down two seperate attack helicopters, one with a knife, and one with a ski pole.
Maybe he's not Bullseye, as far as the ridiculous goes, but he's not far off either. 😉
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Here's a great example from the respect thread-Cap vs. Taskmaster- Cap has no shield here- though not really relevant, since batman isn't really known to run around with shields either.
Despite the physical advantage, Cap was clearly losing this before surprising Taskmaster by busting out the (rarely seen) energy shield.
Also note that in this fight we see Tasky using explosive arrows, shock arrows, concussive arrows, pistols, sword, shield, and neural darts.
You're taking the fight out of context. Cap has the physical advantage but it's not a big one. Taskmaster on the other hand has explosive arrows a sword and a shield. TM has a big advantage, Cap doesn't.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
ummmthe post you quoted is of a guy using an alien fighting style and being drugged up in order to utilize it like the aliens that created it. pretty sure batman doesn't know that style 😐
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batwidegyre-463.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/det411.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batmansecretfile1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batleeprofile.jpg
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Those accuracy feats don't hold a candle to Daredevil's, let alone Bullseye's...Anyway, Batman wins the majority.
I agree. TM is good but I think that eventhough he can match Batman in h2h Batman is a mentally tougher, more brutal and dirtier fighter than TM. Not only that he has gadgets and knows the territory. Even if he can't beat TM in h2h he can use the envinronment.