Hulk 634 Vs Surfer & Beta Ray Bill

Started by carver915 pages
Originally posted by dmills
As soon as you show scans of the Hulk "speed jumping" while clapping his hands in the air and melting heralds with his gamma energy. All at the same time of course 🙂

Him speed jumping has been shown numerous of times. Hulk during 634 was emitting energy the entire time while fighting she Rulk. He even did it during his fight against Armageddon while jumping in the air with a punch.

That was standard for this Hulk.

As for thunderclap...you don't think Hulk can jump up in the air and clap his hands at the same time? Can you jump and clap?

Originally posted by carver9
Him speed jumping has been shown numerous of times. Hulk during 634 was emitting energy the entire time while fighting she Rulk. He even did it during his fight against Armageddon while jumping in the air with a punch.

That was standard for this Hulk.

As for thunderclap...you don't think Hulk can jump up in the air and clap his hands at the same time? Can you jump and clap?


This is eerily similar to the argument that you've vehemently rejected regarding Flash being able to IMP multiple times a second.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't see why Bill and Surfer using ranged attacks is paramount to me saying they'd be fighting out of character. The fact of the matter is against foes like this, Hulk needs them to engage him up close and personal for him to smash them decisively.

They are not safe in this battle.

Originally posted by carver9
Him speed jumping has been shown numerous of times. Hulk during 634 was emitting energy the entire time while fighting she Rulk. He even did it during his fight against Armageddon while jumping in the air with a punch.

That was standard for this Hulk.

As for thunderclap...you don't think Hulk can jump up in the air and clap his hands at the same time? Can you jump and clap?

You're showing your bias with that post you know that right?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
This is eerily similar to the argument that you've vehemently rejected regarding Flash being able to IMP multiple times a second.

Are you really arguing that Hulk can't clap while in the air? That's different than an imp. He is CLAPPING.

Originally posted by dmills
You're showing your bias with that post you know that right?

How?

Originally posted by dmills
Not necessarily. There's a reason that we know these are two of the more versatile heralds out there. Surfer is only an idiot when he fights Thanos or Thor. Against the Hulk in particular he has a history of using his abilities rather then slugging it out against him.

Through the years though Hulks showings against Silver Surfer have improved as his power has grown and during Planet Hulk, although he had help, Hulk did show he had the power to knock Surfer out.
You mentioned Thanos, Surfers powers were shown to be almost nothing to him, it would be a completely different story if WBH took on Thanos.

Just curious, if you think the team would win how do you think they would win?

Originally posted by carver9
How?

Because earlier you demanded to be shown a very specific set of feats done in synchronicity by the team, but yet when asked that the Hulk show the feats that you claimed he'd do, but with the same synchronicity that you demanded of the team, you did the Ali shuffle.

In other words, be consistent.

Originally posted by carver9
Are you really arguing that Hulk can't clap while in the air? That's different than an imp. He is CLAPPING.

The IMP didn't appear to take much more effort than a thunderclap.

Originally posted by dmills
Because earlier you demanded to be shown a very specific set of feats done in synchronicity by the team, but yet when asked that the Hulk show the feats that you claimed he'd do, but with the same synchronicity that you demanded of the team, you did the Ali shuffle.

In other words, be consistent.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Through the years though Hulks showings against Silver Surfer have improved as his power has grown and during Planet Hulk, although he had help, Hulk did show he had the power to knock Surfer out.
You mentioned Thanos, Surfers powers were shown to be almost nothing to him, it would be a completely different story if WBH took on Thanos.

Just curious, if you think the team would win how do you think they would win?

With a cheapshot (although it can be counted as payback for the Surfer cheapshot from earlier in the encounter)

Not in my estimation. Thanos would devastate any version of the Hulk. Nothing I've seen currently would change that.

That bottomline for me is this, the Hulk had some bad ass showings in the last few issues no doubt. But you guys are out of your minds giving him the win over 2 high heralds, one of which is a trinity member. I'm not prepared to give Banner that yet. The biggest baddest strongest one there is title is his for sure. But he'd lose to these two imo.

The two can win if they battle field remove him or something akin to that but they'd get wrecked if they go for force over finesse.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The two can win if they battle field remove him or something akin to that but they'd get wrecked if they go for force over finesse.

One of the non-biased peeps on the forum.

Originally posted by carver9
One of the non-biased peeps on the forum.

Originally posted by dmills
With a cheapshot (although it can be counted as payback for the Surfer cheapshot from earlier in the encounter)

Not in my estimation. Thanos would devastate any version of the Hulk. Nothing I've seen currently would change that.

That bottomline for me is this, the Hulk had some bad ass showings in the last few issues no doubt. But you guys are out of your minds giving him the win over 2 high heralds, one of which is a trinity member. I'm not prepared to give Banner that yet. The biggest baddest strongest one there is title is his for sure. But he'd lose to these two imo.

How is Thanos beating Hulk?

He would have to take it h2h because his blasting power isn't doing a thing to Hulk. In a fist match, Thanos is getting curbed.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The IMP didn't appear to take much more effort than a thunderclap.

People saying that Flash can throw a 1000 Superman level punches in a second...Thats ridiculous. Who has flash koed with a punch?

Originally posted by carver9
How is Thanos beating Hulk?

He would have to take it h2h because his blasting power isn't doing a thing to Hulk. In a fist match, Thanos is getting curbed.

Quan just heard that from wherever he is right now and he is coming to get you.

Looking at who these responses are coming from, it seems as though this debate is split inbetween two camps. Posters that favor raw power showings and posters that favor power set/versatility showings.

Originally posted by dmills
Because earlier you demanded to be shown a very specific set of feats done in synchronicity by the team, but yet when asked that the Hulk show the feats that you claimed he'd do, but with the same synchronicity that you demanded of the team, you did the Ali shuffle.

In other words, be consistent.

What I have stated has been shown on panel. It's just that simple. Hulk thunderclapped Gladiator ears in while in the air. Hulk super speed jumped against Ghostrider and he did it in his latest issue.

Him powering up, emitting gamma energy from his body...that has happened on numerous of occasions. He even did it while attacking himself.

Like I said before...Bill and Surfer would be busy trying no to get hit by the energy output of Hulk which would leave them wide open for Hulk to leap and attack. They would be absorbing energy while fending off a ruthless Hulk.

Originally posted by dmills
Looking at who these responses are coming from, it seems as though this debate is split inbetween two camps. Posters that favor raw power showings and posters that favor power set/versatility showings.

Versatility isn't helping them unless they are in a secure area from the Hulk which in itself would be a bfr on their part.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before...Bill and Surfer would be busy trying no to get hit by the energy output of Hulk which would leave them wide open for Hulk to leap and attack. They would be absorbing energy while fending off a ruthless Hulk... I can't see that happening.
coincidence?