Hulk 634 Vs Surfer & Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by Simbon
Surfer's blasts are powerful enough to KO the Champion, and in his fight with Morg they devastated an entire solar system with their energy output -- to assume that they would have "no effect" on Hulk is foolishness. Likewise, Hulk's resistance to transmutation was against someone whose abilities are so quantitatively and qualitatively inferior to Surfer's that the feat means almost nothing here, especially as in that comic hulk took pages to fully recover -- even though he regained mobility, he was still slow and stony. Surfer has evolved an entire planet with his matter manip, and has even affected Lunatik in a lasting way, who also has a massive healing factor.Some folks have suggested that Armageddon tried and failed to gamma drain hulk and that therefor it would be the same with Surfer, but this is simply not true -- Armageddon manipulated Hulk's energy to use it as a weapon against the people hulk loved, and he succeeded. Hulk bore through the attack and killed him, but the fight shows precisely the opposite of what some have claimed: it shows that hulk's gamma energy can be manipulated by an outside force.

Surfer solos ten ways 'til sunday.

Show me Armageddon draining Hulk dry. He had Surfer at his mercy with the same type of attack he used against Hulk.

Surfer never destroyed a Solar System.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Armageddon draining Hulk dry. He had Surfer at his mercy with the same type of attack he used against Hulk.

Surfer never destroyed a Solar System.

Hulk's gamma energy > Surfer's PC and Storm breaker?

Only person that can drain Hulk dry is Carver.

Originally posted by Mindset
Only person that can drain Hulk dry is Carver.

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Originally posted by dmills
Hulk's gamma energy > Surfer's PC and Storm breaker?

Originally posted by dmills
Hulk's gamma energy > Surfer's PC and Storm breaker?

Looking at the destructive power Armageddon was unleashing when he absorbed Hulk power versus the destructive power armageddon unleashed when he absorbed Surfer power...yes.

Then if you look at the fact that Rulk drained Surfer dry in a panel but when he tried to do the same thing to WWH, he failed and WWH even stated during the time Rulk was trying to drain him that it was impossible...he doesn't have the power to handle WWH power.

So yeah, your estimations is right.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Armageddon draining Hulk dry. He had Surfer at his mercy with the same type of attack he used against Hulk.

Surfer never destroyed a Solar System.

Armageddon never tried to drain hulk dry -- like I said, like the comic said, he was only using Hulk's energy as a weapon. The attack was not at all the same kind he used against Surfer -- in that case, he was simply letting power run through surfer uncontrollably (like a spigget, in his words). Once again, it proves that Hulk's gamma energy can be manipulated.

I never said "destroyed" -- I said devastated, which is what they did.

Originally posted by Mindset
Only person that can drain Hulk dry is Carver.

It's funny because it's true.

Originally posted by Simbon
Armageddon never tried to drain hulk dry -- like I said, like the comic said, he was only using Hulk's energy as a weapon. The attack was not at all the same kind he used against Surfer -- in that case, he was simply letting power run through surfer uncontrollably (like a spigget, in his words). Once again, it proves that Hulk's gamma energy can be manipulated.

I never said "destroyed" -- I said devastated, which is what they did.

Rulk drained Surfer dry in one panel and failed at doing the same thing to WWH.

Originally posted by carver9
Looking at the destructive power Armageddon was unleashing when he absorbed Hulk power versus the destructive power armageddon unleashed when he absorbed Surfer power...yes.

Then if you look at the fact that Rulk drained Surfer dry in a panel but when he tried to do the same thing to WWH, he failed and WWH even stated during the time Rulk was trying to drain him that it was impossible...he doesn't have the power to handle WWH power.

So yeah, your estimations is right.

Ah yes, because Rulk is Rulk, and has had no radical decline in power since his early appearances. Hulk >> Grandmaster, right?

Originally posted by carver9
Rulk drained Surfer dry in one panel and failed at doing the same thing to WWH.

Originally posted by Simbon
Ah yes, because Rulk is Rulk, and has had no radical decline in power since his early appearances. Hulk >> Grandmaster, right?

Originally posted by Simbon
Ah yes, because Rulk is Rulk, and has had no radical decline in power since his early appearances. Hulk >> Grandmaster, right?

How ever you want to put it. Why debate against Hulk and always ignore what he has done? I don't get it.

Originally posted by carver9
Rulk drained Surfer dry in one panel and failed at doing the same thing to WWH.

Well at least Surfer has an out that Surfer was prior to his upgrade in annihilation as Hulk was drained as Savage Hulk and not as WWH.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Well at least Surfer has an out that Surfer was prior to his upgrade in annihilation as Hulk was drained as Savage Hulk and not as WWH.

How much more powerful is Surfer now than he was when he wasnt upgraded? If we look at other showings involving the 2, Surfer and Hulk went through the same worm hole and when they came out the other end, Surfer was koed but Hulk was still awake and this was Surfer after Annihilation.

SS was beating Hulk's ass in hth on Planet Hulk.

That's all I remember.

Originally posted by Mindset
SS was beating Hulk's ass in hth on Planet Hulk.

That's all I remember.

You are right. A Hulk that was weakened by the wormhole and then had a disk placed on him that drained his powers even further.

Yeah, I agree.

Originally posted by carver9
You are right. A Hulk that was weakened by the wormhole and then had a disk placed on him that drained his powers even further.

Yeah, I agree.

Also, according to you the wormhole affected SS more than it did Hulk.

Not looking too good there, champ.

Originally posted by Mindset
Was being beaten by a SS that was weakened and had a disc placed on him that drained his powers even further.

Also, according to you the wormhole affected SS more than it did Hulk.

Not looking too good there, champ.

Hulk power is his strength and durability...he was basically depleted of both. Then a couple of well placed blows from a weakened Hulk koed Surfer whereas Surfer with a weapon and his board couldn't drop Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk power is his strength and durability...he was basically depleted of both. Then a couple of well placed blows from a weakened Hulk koed Surfer whereas Surfer with a weapon and his board couldn't drop Hulk.

You mean when SS was done smacking Hulk around and he stopped fighting to try to reason with him?

Originally posted by carver9
How much more powerful is Surfer now than he was when he wasnt upgraded? If we look at other showings involving the 2, Surfer and Hulk went through the same worm hole and when they came out the other end, Surfer was koed but Hulk was still awake and this was Surfer after Annihilation.

You seem to forget that the Surfer flow into that portal unprotected where as Hulk went in inside of a space ship that just the first difference secondly Surfer specifically state he does not know if its just the portal or the planet itself that weakening him it could have been a combination of both where as it was the portal itself for the Hulk.