Originally posted by quanchi112
He was challenged by Thanos. Anyone else lower wasn't close to even garnering his attention and the Magus kill was a mistake. That's power.
Christ...
He was challenged by Thanos because someone had to be. Mar-vell was the one who performed the original necropsy, and it was fitting (or necessary?) for him to be the one to bring Death back.
I realize that the Magus kill was an impressive feat. I'm not about to declare him skyfather+ for it though.
Originally posted by Cogito
I did read TI.Look, you keep thinking I'm challenging you. I'm just trying to gather facts.
We don't know what level Lord Mar-vell is at because he wasn't ever challenged, and he never had a legitimate fight with any top tier.
It was a flash showing, but I think the writers got their point across. Mar-vell was clearly meant to be above the team and a threat that only Thanos could put down or whatever.
Originally posted by Cogito
I'm trying to find his floor & ceiling.His floor is obviously at or slightly above Surfer.
His ceiling is somewhere between Surfer and Thanos, and I'm inclined to believe it's closer to Surfer.
I tend to agree. Obviously he wasn't on Thanos' level, somewhere above Surfer seems about right. And its worth mentioning what he did to Nova. Shields smashed with a punch, mind probed with utter ease, Worldmind phased out. Not even the Sphinx was ever capable of that, and he's tried a few times. Although Nova wasn't at full power until issue 6, so there is that to consider.
Originally posted by Cogito
Honestly, that would be like drawing conclusions to Superman vs. Doomsday in DOS after this.
Woah.
I bet Superman kicked his ass, easily. 😱
Originally posted by CogitoYou can place him wherever you want but above Thor or any elite top tier is consistent with his portrayal. Thanos is so far up the chain him just straight owning Mar-vell rams the point home.
Christ...He was challenged by Thanos because someone had to be. Mar-vell was the one who performed the original necropsy, and it was fitting (or necessary?) for him to be the one to bring Death back.
I realize that the Magus kill was an impressive feat. I'm not about to declare him skyfather+ for it though.
Originally posted by psycho gundamlooked intentional to me
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Quanchi has a history of lying to make Thanos appear to be stronger than he truly is...
And his only reason for wanting to trump up Lord Marvell is because Thanos beat him...
Anyway, to get back on topic, I think Blood and Thunder Thor (who was performing above average everyday Thor by a significant margin) gets a majority against Marvell...
Perhaps 7 out of 10 in favor of BT Thor...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
👆Quanchi has a history of lying to make Thanos appear to be stronger than he truly is...
And his only reason for wanting to trump up Lord Marvell is because Thanos beat him...
Anyway, to get back on topic, I think Blood and Thunder Thor (who was performing above average everyday Thor by a significant margin) gets a majority against Marvell...
Perhaps 7 out of 10 in favor of BT Thor...
😂 Pretty much. Low trans level sounds about right though.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
looked intentional to me
Yes..and no...
I see where Quan is getting the unintentional thing. Mar-vell said "A universe where things can still die. That will take some time getting used to."
It's a vague statement. It could imply that he forgot that his attack would kill (rather than inflict pain, which may have been his intention), or it could just be something he said after intentionally killing him. Either way, we'll never know.
Originally posted by psycho gundamYou need to read the dialogue where he states a universe where thing can still die. The blast was intentional but someone dying from this blast he wasn't expecting due to death being wiped out in his own universe.looked intentional to me
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderPlease read the dialogue and once you grasp the meaning of the words I expect an apology. Thor was downed by Bill who then let off mar-vell was never challenged by any character on this level.
👆Quanchi has a history of lying to make Thanos appear to be stronger than he truly is...
And his only reason for wanting to trump up Lord Marvell is because Thanos beat him...
Anyway, to get back on topic, I think Blood and Thunder Thor (who was performing above average everyday Thor by a significant margin) gets a majority against Marvell...
Perhaps 7 out of 10 in favor of BT Thor...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
👆Quanchi has a history of lying to make Thanos appear to be stronger than he truly is...
And his only reason for wanting to trump up Lord Marvell is because Thanos beat him...
Anyway, to get back on topic, I think Blood and Thunder Thor (who was performing above average everyday Thor by a significant margin) gets a majority against Marvell...
Perhaps 7 out of 10 in favor of BT Thor...
I agree with this statement 👆, I was thinking low trans at best, as where BT Thor w/ gem was like mid trans level before Thanos stop him.
Originally posted by BentleyI'm just saying that's how powerful he is whether intentional or not oneshotting the Magus is no small potatoes.
Even if Marvell didn't intend to kill, why would that indicate he's holding back. If he was under the impression Magus couldn't die, he could blast him with all his might and yet not kill him.
Originally posted by dmillsI disagree the blast was not the death part.
@quan,But just before the blast he asks; "so death still lives here?" Magus says yes but... Then gets blasted. The killing was intentional.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm just saying that's how powerful he is whether intentional or not oneshotting the Magus is no small potatoes.I disagree the blast was not the death part.
Agreed. That's peeps kinda lowballing right there. Hell the fact that the Magus would even prostrate himself before Mar-vell should tell you something.
Huh?
