The Fellowship Vs Skynet

Originally posted by Robtard
There's as much proof for Gandalf (the Grey) making the storm/lightning as there is for the storm happening when it did and Gandalf using his abilities to capitalize on it. You're just going to have to accept this.

Not even sure why you're so hard up on lightning taking down a T-800, it's powered by a nuclear device powerful enough to make a small mushroom cloud and it's designed for battle, so I doubt some lighting will shut it down.

The power was enough to kill a Balrog who would dominate a Terminator with a sword.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Gandalf is physically stronger.

😐

Bullshit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Saruman has powers to do so and Gandalf is also an elite wizard from the same universe who so happens to use a storm to defeat a Balrog. If you can't(mainly won't) see the connection then I don't know what to tell you.

The power was enough to kill a Balrog who would dominate a Terminator with a sword.

Gandalf the Grey wished he was as powerful as Sarumon. If you won't follow the rules of the forum instead of just deciding "I need it to be this way for my argument", I don't know what else to tell you.

Meh, maybe. Cos terminators are extremely durable and by all accounts, it was lightning.

Originally posted by Robtard
Gandalf the Grey wished he was as powerful as Sarumon. If you won't follow the rules of the forum instead of just deciding "I need it to be this way for my argument", I don't know what else to tell you.

Meh, maybe. Cos terminators are extremely durable and by all accounts, it was lightning.

gandalf died killing the baelrog didnt he?

Yep.

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
gandalf died killing the baelrog didnt he?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didn't say he was as powerful I said he mirrored Saruman's abilities. Gandalf the grey was powerful enough to defeat a Balrog which is a lot more powerful than a Terminator. You need to back your claims.

Yeah, the "he beat something else!" doesn't fly in of itself, guy. You need a better approach.

Maybe try proving that lightning will destroy a Terminator, since you've decided to skip proving that Gandalf can magic a lightning-bolt out of the sky anytime he wishes and I'm tired of babysitting you.

IMO, the Lembas bread is the ace-in-the-hole.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, the "he beat something else!" doesn't fly in of itself, guy. You need a better approach.

Maybe try proving that lightning will destroy a Terminator, since you've decided to skip proving that Gandalf can magic a lightning-bolt out of the sky anytime he wishes and I'm tired of babysitting you.

IMO, the Lembas bread is the ace-in-the-hole.

The sword and blast can damage the Terminator if it can damage someone more durable and powerful than the Terminator.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Based upon what? I don't remember seeing Gandalf manhandling the Baelrog anywhere.

Gandalf rapes the ****ing shit out of the Terminator.

Remember when they first fought? When Gandalf put up a shield to block the Balrog's blows? Its sword disintegrated on impact.

If that happens to the Terminator, he's rightly ****ed, and without a weapon, the Terminator can't even signifigantly injure Gandalf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he beat someone more durable and powerful than the Terminator it does fly.

The sword and blast can damage the Terminator if it can damage someone more durable and powerful than the Terminator.

Not the way you're presenting it. Doogie Howser could beat Superman (ala Lex Luther in returns) with a shard of Kryptonite, does that mean he can beat Aragorn too? No.

Now Nemebro, that fool has a proper argument here, see above. Learn something.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not the way you're presenting it. Doogie Howser could beat Superman (ala Lex Luther in returns) with a shard of Kryptonite, does that mean he can beat Aragorn too? No.

Now Nemebro, that fool has a proper argument here, see above. Learn something.

Nemebro goes about it like he usually does by saying Gandalf is stronger than a Terminator. You buying into how far he exaggerates is something I would expect from you.

Gandalf: "Wash day doth come on the morrow..."nothing clean", right?"

Terminator: "."

(Terminator delivers the Bill Paxton punishment)

Originally posted by NemeBro
He was shown parrying its blows, and his strikes sent it reeling. He fought it during freefall in a distance that measured kilometers, not only did he survive the fall, but he continued to fight it for IIRC days.

Gandalf rapes the ****ing shit out of the Terminator.

Remember when they first fought? When Gandalf put up a shield to block the Balrog's blows? Its sword disintegrated on impact.

If that happens to the Terminator, he's rightly ****ed, and without a weapon, the Terminator can't even signifigantly injure Gandalf.

No he isn't and no they didn't. The fight mostly happened off-screen and while his strikes were causing it pain there was no visible injuries. Gandalf himself says that swords are no use against the Balrog.

Again, how?

You mean the sword that was made out of fire and that the Balrog pretty literally pulled out of his ass? Yes, I'm sure that was a natural weapon and I'm sure that normal weapons will be affected the same way. Thats why Gandalf uses the same spell again and again against sword-wielding foes. Also I'll note that the sword only disintergrates when the Balrog lets go of it. Given that he conjured it from his own fire I'm betting that it can't exist independently, hence why it disintergrates.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gandalf was fighting him without a storm for days and falling hundreds of feet without doing so. Gandalf's staff and magic broke balrog's whip against it. He's just far too powerful(due to magic) and is an excellent swordsman.

Nemebro goes about it like he usually does by saying Gandalf is stronger than a Terminator. You buying into how far he exaggerates is something I would expect from you.

Do tell me how Gandalf was able to parry blows with his own blade then? Take a few backhands? Survive a massive free-fall?

Things to consider: The Balrog had enough mass to make the ground shake and it was strong enough to break through very think stone when it had to make the opening to the causeway sizable to its own girth. Go.

Originally posted by Robtard
Do tell me how Gandalf was able to parry blows with his own blade then? Take a few backhands? Survive a massive free-fall?

Things to consider: The Balrog had enough mass to make the ground shake and it was strong enough to break through very think stone when it had to make the opening to the causeway sizable to its own girth. Go.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he was highly skilled and probably had magic aid him. If he's as strong as he is there he'd just knock regular men on their asses on the battlefield.

So your argument against Nemobro's screen-feats is "he probably". That's a fail, sir.

Originally posted by Robtard
So your argument against Nemobro's screen-feats is "he probably". That's a fail, sir.

On behalf of Nemebro, I accept your concession.

I don't know which side you two are on anymore.