Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you think Gandalf using magic against the Balrog before they both fell to ward off his attacks with magic was all for show ? You seem to think on strength alone now he can do so making that show of magic to be unnecessary.
No, I don't and I have no idea where you got that from. Considering he was trying to protect the Fellowship and most importantly Frodo; trying to defeat the Balrog without much of a clash was the most sensible thing to do. He had planned to drop the Balrog into the chasm all along; he didn't expect the whip taking him in the rear though.
Originally posted by RobtardGood then you admit based off of Gandalf's other showings including this one it's logical he was using magic as a buffer against him throughout the entire fight. Kinda makes more sense than he suddenly became strong enough in his body to just fight him off. If he has that level of strength then he'd just physically dominate orcs on the battlefield.
No, I don't and I have no idea where you got that from. Considering he was trying to protect the Fellowship and most importantly Frodo; trying to defeat the Balrog without much of a clash was the most sensible thing to do. He had planned to drop the Balrog into the chasm all along; he didn't expect the whip taking him in the rear though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
See how my portrayal over feats actually comes in handy. You know if you're willing I could train you in the arts of quan.
This isn't portrayal over feats Quan. Gandalf doesn't have the feats required for what they're saying and so I'm disagreeing with them. If he were really as strong as a Terminator as Neme suggests he could have just punched that bridge apart, and he would be bissecting orcs with every swing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Good then you admit based off of Gandalf's other showings including this one it's logical he was using magic as a buffer against him throughout the entire fight. Kinda makes more sense than he suddenly became strong enough in his body to just fight him off. If he has that level of strength then he'd just physically dominate orcs on the battlefield.
Why are you still crying to me about it? It's Nemebro's argument so get off my nuts already. No one rides them for free, dude.
Just curious though, you don't think Gandalf could create whatever magic you think he did when fighting the Balrog to rip the Terminator a new ******* as Nemebro suggest?
Originally posted by NephthysI go by both but favor portrayal over feats. The offer is still on the table. You could be my apprentice.
This isn't portrayal over feats Quan. Gandalf doesn't have the feats required for what they're saying and so I'm disagreeing with them. If he were really as strong as a Terminator as Neme suggests he could have just punched that bridge apart, and he would be bissecting orcs with every swing.
Originally posted by RobtardI told you his argument which you championed was terrible. I've been to the video game versus forum he loves saying character x solos an army and stuff like that. I am arguing based off of why I believe Gandalf can win I won't just side with anybody who sides with Gandalf. I'm a man of principle.
Why are you still crying to me about it? It's Nemebro's argument so get off my nuts already. No one rides them for free, dude.Just curious though, you don't think Gandalf could create whatever magic you think he did when fighting the Balrog to rip the Terminator a new ******* as Nemebro suggest?
Originally posted by quanchi112
I told you his argument which you championed was terrible. I've been to the video game versus forum he loves saying character x solos an army and stuff like that. I am arguing based off of why I believe Gandalf can win I won't just side with anybody who sides with Gandalf. I'm a man of principle.
You're just whining now; considering you both have the same basic argument, "Gandalf can solo the Terminator", you're whining out of apparent butt-hurt Nemebro gave you in the VG forum.
Let it go, dude. Carrying butt-hurt across threads is in poor form; carrying butt-hurt across forums is an outright sin.
Originally posted by RobtardI am saying based on his magical powers not some super strength he wasn't portrayed to have. I am not complaining about him I am just telling you he does the same kinda stuff in the other versus forum. You said his reasoning was awesome not me.
You're just whining now; considering you both have the same basic argument, "Gandalf can solo the Terminator", you're whining out of apparent butt-hurt Nemebro gave you in the VG forum.Let it go, dude. Carrying butt-hurt across threads is in poor form; carrying butt-hurt across forums is an outright sin.
I am glad you're here to help me in my moment of need.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying based on his magical powers not some super strength he wasn't portrayed to have. I am not complaining about him I am just telling you he does the same kinda stuff in the other versus forum. You said his reasoning was awesome not me.I am glad you're here to help me in my moment of need.
Toe-may-toe, toe-ma-toe, dude. Does it matter if he blocked a super strong hit with innate super-strength or with a magic/spell that allowed him to block a super strong hit? That's just petty whining, dude.
You in fact are complaining about him. Really, Nemebro is a loving and gentle person, a virtual cup filled with the milk of human kindness, you should stop.
If you go to the first page, I was the first person to challenge the first "terminator wins" post from that angry girl person. I also sent her a PM days ago trying to sooth things over from the Sauron/Snape thread; she ignored it, must still be angry over an MVF thread, silly.
Originally posted by RobtardI'm saying he can use magic just like he did to weather the Balrog's attacks not like he's super strong. That isn't whining it's arguing based off the movies.
Toe-may-toe, toe-ma-toe, dude. Does it matter if he blocked a super strong hit with innate super-strength or with a magic/spell that allowed him to block a super strong hit? That's just petty whining, dude.You in fact are complaining about him. Really, Nemebro is a loving and gentle person, a virtual cup filled with the milk of human kindness, you should stop.
If you go to the first page, I was the first person to challenge the first "terminator wins" post from that angry girl person. I also sent her a PM days ago trying to sooth things over from the Sauron/Snape thread; she ignored it, must still be angry over an MVF thread, silly.
Do you know nemebro ?
You and your crazy challenges. I am not falling for your traps.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm saying he can use magic just like he did to weather the Balrog's attacks not like he's super strong. That isn't whining it's arguing based off the movies.Do you know nemebro ?
You and your crazy challenges. I am not falling for your traps.
More nitpicking over the most trivial of titbits. You think Gandalf solos; Nemebro thinks Gandalf solos. Stop trying to make an argument when there isn't one. There are others here who think the Terminator wins, so pick your fights wisely.
Just from the boards; mostly the MVF.
Go look, I was the first to champion the Fellowship, so that makes me the bigger LoTR fan. I won again, dude. Condolences.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No he isn't and no they didn't. The fight mostly happened off-screen and while his strikes were causing it pain there was no visible injuries. Gandalf himself says that swords are no use against the Balrog.
Lol. Yeah.
Check 3:45. Notice that when Gandalf slashes and stabs at the Balrog, it bleeds magma. "No visible injuries" indeed. Also notice himself weathering punches and strikes from the Balrog. While in freefall. For kilometers.
Now check 4:45 of the vid. Notice Gandalf swing his sword. Notice how the Balrog was sent reeling back. Yeah.
Again, how?
Cutting its head off works.
You mean the sword that was made out of fire and that the Balrog pretty literally pulled out of his ass? Yes, I'm sure that was a natural weapon and I'm sure that normal weapons will be affected the same way. Thats why Gandalf uses the same spell again and again against sword-wielding foes. Also I'll note that the sword only disintergrates when the Balrog lets go of it. Given that he conjured it from his own fire I'm betting that it can't exist independently, hence why it disintergrates.
I'm sure it was far ****ing superior to the sword of an Uruk-hai. Also, check 2:20 of the vid again. Notice that after the sword disintegrates, the Balrog reels back, in pain.
Please don't bring up Gandalf's PIS. Peter Jackson, when asked by Ian McKellen why Gandalf doesn't just solve a lot of the conflicts with his magic, basically admitted there's no real reason why he doesn't, by giving a sarcastic answer like "His staff's batteries were dead."
Gandalf has proven to be physically the superior foe. And once more, HE FELL KILOMETERS WHILE FIGHTING IN FREE-FALL.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Annoyingly I agree with Quan. Gandalf never displays superhuman attributes in the movies. If he were really as strong as a Terminator as Neme suggests he could have just punched that bridge apart, and he would be besecting orcs with every swing.
I guess falling kilometers and then fighting with a fire demon as big as a truck isn't superhuman.
I don't know if you noticed, but ****ing Aragorn is superhuman, let alone Gandalf. He can cut through plate as though it were cheese, and block the strike of a troll.
Originally posted by RobtardI take this stuff seriously. You should do the same. It's all about the details.
More nitpicking over the most trivial of titbits. You think Gandalf solos; Nemebro thinks Gandalf solos. Stop trying to make an argument when there isn't one. There are others here who think the Terminator wins, so pick your fights wisely.Just from the boards; mostly the MVF.
Go look, I was the first to champion the Fellowship, so that makes me the bigger LoTR fan. I won again, dude. Condolences.
It''s obvious if I asked you McClane or The Fellowship you'd smash the dvd over your head and start chanting, McClane the man never loses, Ever.