Originally posted by Sadako of GirthZan didn't have time to waste with mere humans. The one who was the leader of an entire nation who suckered him was quickly put down.
But he didnt do it h2h, so ummmmm no. Its not.
Human Vs Human kill count speaks volumes.
(Whether luck, ingenuity, intuition, whatver got him through:Its a part of the character)So basically erm..."McWinnage".
"McLosage."
Originally posted by quanchi112
McClane with weapons that are handy > tough guys in his movies.No hand guns or lucky grabs here. Zan headbutts him into submission.
Not all the time, genius. Someone recently posted how he killed J.J. Walker's father on the airplane wing without weapons. Good of you to ignore, it's your only defense here.
Van Zan couldn't headbutt an average joe into submission and only caused a minor wound. The guy is all show and little performance.
Originally posted by RobtardYes, sometimes he can best a guy without weapons but most of the time he needs them unlike Zan who treats human beings like minor pests.
Not all the time, genius. Someone recently posted how he killed J.J. Walker's father on the airplane wing without weapons. Good of you to ignore, it's your only defense here.Van Zan couldn't headbutt an average joe into submission and only caused a minor wound. The guy is all show and little performance.
McClane is just another guy he'd dominate on his way to kill another dragon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, sometimes he can best a guy without weapons but most of the time he needs them unlike Zan who treats human beings like minor pests.McClane is just another guy he'd dominate on his way to kill another dragon.
LoL.
You rant about something; it's proven to be wrong, so you rant in another direction. Zan Van only punched one average guy, so it's not "human beings", it's one average guy.
Originally posted by RobtardYou didn't prove me wrong. McClane usually wins a fight with a weapon but not every single one whereas Zan has proven he is quite skilled at fighting as evidenced by his victory over Quinn.
LoL.You rant about something; it's proven to be wrong, so you rant in another direction. Zan Van only punched one average guy, so it's not "human beings", it's one average guy.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthThere won't be any guns around in this environment.
McClane use the environment around him.So Zan is screwed.
There are tonnes of skilled fighters in the DH saga.
And they all have three things in common:Being McClane's bi*ch,
being better fighters who hit harder than Van Zan,
and being dead.
Being in McClane's movies means they have to die but in a forum fight the hero can be killed like in this thread.
Originally posted by RobtardMcClane isn't strong enough nor can he weaken Zan enough to bash him into the street. Zan will give him the headbutt of his life.
But there is a street and McClane being the master of fighting in a given environment will use that by bashing Van Zan's head against it.You were told this pages ago, you just don't listen.
Originally posted by quanchi112
McClane isn't strong enough nor can he weaken Zan enough to bash him into the street. Zan will give him the headbutt of his life.
See, this is why you fail miserable, McClane at times has had super-human strength. Him grabbing and clinging onto the ventilation duct with his fingertips after the explosion, a normal man wouldn't have survived or been able to grab and hold.
Further proof you have no argument, you know nothing about John McClane.
Originally posted by RobtardSo now his finger tips holding onto something proves he can best Zan in a hand to hand fight. This is just absurd. Zan has proven himself as en elite fighter while McClane has proven himself as a punching bag.
See, this is why you fail miserable, McClane at times has had super-human strength. Him grabbing and clinging onto the ventilation duct with his fingertips after the explosion, a normal man wouldn't have survived or been able to grab and hold.Further proof you have no argument, you know nothing about John McClane.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He isn't beyond it at all he just has a high damage soak. Zan delivers the pain so this backs up both movie universes which you believe are the same.
Again, ignoring screen-feats, what he did would also require an insanely high level of strength, besides durability. It's in the film.
Van Zan likely couldn't even give McClane the cut lip he gave Quinn, which was Van Zan's best damage feat.
Originally posted by RobtardYou don't need an insane amount of strength to beat McClane you just need to be a better fighter which Zan is.
Again, ignoring screen-feats, what he did would also require an insanely high level of strength, besides durability. It's in the film.Van Zan likely couldn't even give McClane the cut lip he gave Quinn, which was Van Zan's best damage feat.
Zan wasn't about fighting humans he was about fighting the dragons which killed McClane since you think everything takes place in the same universe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't need an insane amount of strength to beat McClane you just need to be a better fighter which Zan is.Zan wasn't about fighting humans he was about fighting the dragons which killed McClane since you think everything takes place in the same universe.
Better fighters than Van Zan with actual high-end military training have tried, they all died though.
You have no proof that McClane is dead in the year 2022, sure he'd be old, but he could still be alive. Probably doing a better job at killing dragons in the US by himself than Van Zan every did with a team. I also never made that "everything" claim as you're trying to twist it, nice try.
So show proof to your claim that McClane of 2022 is dead or STFU. Why do you always do this to yourself, make claims you can't support and just come off looking like a stupid dick?