Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by quanchi112112 pages

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So you just describe what your post would contain should you be bothered to write it?

Thats not much of a response... 😕

That's your post it's just you are very repetitive. Zan was fine against Quinn while McClane was being dominated despite having a gun on his opponent.

You repeatedly saying incorrect things forces me to repeatedly correct you. Ergo: Any repetitiveness here is down to you.

Nah he got his mouth smashed up, and bloody from two slaps and had to walk away with his virtually unmarked opponent screaming death threats at him and having to be held back through wanting to do more damage to Van Zan.

Ninja Chick was blindingly fast though. She'd have disarmed Van Zan too, and could probably also have shaved him, applied girl makeup to him and manicured him before he could react and punch her, on account of his uber slow, telegraphed, no-power punches.

Ninja chick would absolutely kill Zan.

Though I'm not a fan of A>B>C Logic it is true.

Yup.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You repeatedly saying incorrect things forces me to repeatedly correct you. Ergo: Any repetitiveness here is down to you.

Nah he got his mouth smashed up, and bloody from two slaps and had to walk away with his virtually unmarked opponent screaming death threats at him and having to be held back through wanting to do more damage to Van Zan.

Ninja Chick was blindingly fast though. She'd have disarmed Van Zan too, and could probably also have shaved him, applied girl makeup to him and manicured him before he could react and punch her, on account of his uber slow, telegraphed, no-power punches.

The man was suckered without even knowing Quinn's intentions whereas McClane had a gun aimed at someone. Zan was still fine whereas McClane was disarmed and beaten like a child until she turned her back to him. The luck part flared up again.

When you sucker McClane, you pay with your life.
He kills you, moves on. For four movies it has been his way.

Whereas you sucker Van Zan, you get to beat his ass, then watch him become dragon poo later on, and win the movie.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
When you sucker McClane, you pay with your life.
In a die hard movie but this isn't die hard, BRAH.

It doesnt have to be.

All his abilities and attributes remain intact/ungimped.

Sorry jus' the way that fair fights is.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It doesnt have to be.

All his abilities and attributes remain intact/ungimped.

Sorry jus' the way that fair fights is.

Yes, but we takek the luck out of it. Opponents won't suddenly turn to something else in the middle of a fight like he needed to happen to beat a woman.

Zan, 10/10.

Luck is one of McClane's displayed, noted attributes, commented upon in-universe by various witnessing characters.

You can't gimp dat, Holmes.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Luck is one of McClane's displayed, noted attributes, commented upon in-universe by various witnessing characters.

You can't gimp dat, Holmes.

Zan doesn't walk away because it's not in character for him to do so. In the die hard universe stupid things happen to push their weak hero in reign of fire it's a bleak future where crapola happens.

Stupid? Weak? lol You just summed up Van Zan and Reign of Fire.

More Crappola happens to McClane on his way to get the fridge to get his 1st ber of the morning.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Stupid? Weak? lol You just summed up Van Zan and Reign of Fire.

More Crappola happens to McClane on his way to get the fridge to get his 1st ber of the morning.

No, a guy who no sells sucker punches seems tougher than someone who gets crushed by a gun with a gun on her.

Always with the reductionist spin representation.

Already established that she was lightning fast.
And McClane was the one doing the crushing.

She'd make mincemeat out of a slow wuss Van Zan.
EVERY punch is a sucker punch for someone as slow as Van Zan.
Even the most telegraphed shots in all of history.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Always with the reductionist spin representation.

Already established that she was lightning fast.
And McClane was the one doing the crushing.

She'd make mincemeat out of a slow wuss Van Zan.
EVERY punch is a sucker punch for someone as slow as Van Zan.
Even the most telegraphed shots in all of history.

She wasn't as fast as lightning my McClanic riled up buddy. She was just faster and better skilled than McClane the king of luck, right ?

Lucky for him she just turns around and walks away. Zan won't. Zan ethers him.

Oh no, young Van Fanboy...It is you who are the McRiled one....about a great many thingssss...

Nope he killed her. Fair and square.

Zan cannot beat McClane.
Not damaging enough.
Not fast enough.
Not durable enough.

Merry Xmas.

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh no, young Van Fanboy...It is you who are the McRiled one....about a great many thingssss...

Nope he killed her. Fair and square.

Zan cannot beat McClane.
Not damaging enough.
Not fast enough.
Not durable enough.

Merry Xmas.

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She turned around he capitalized. This won't happen here. Zan wins. Zan wins. Zan wins.

Dude he wouldn't need Zan to turn around.

Against the Ninja Chick, it would be over before Van Slowass could react.

Against McClane, it would be over just after Van Zan reacts.

Van Zan loses hideously.

That is all. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dude he wouldn't need Zan to turn around.

Against the Ninja Chick, it would be over before Van Slowass could react.

Against McClane, it would be over just after Van Zan reacts.

Van Zan loses hideously.

That is all. 🙂

Zan was never beaten once in a fistacuffs or humiliated by a woman like McClane. Zan wins.

Winning at fisticuffs= Damaging your opponent more than he damages you.

So yeah Van Zan kinda was actually.

So no he doesn't win.