Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by quanchi112112 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
He was a survivor, along with other people, some of them little children; that isn't a H2H feat.

He did have the right plan; that isn't a H2H feat.

Your man crush on Bale's physique isn't a H2H feat.

He was fairly tough, but that isn't a H2H feat in of itself.

How was he formidable? He showed base level H2H fighting skills.

He was the leader in a post apocalyptic environment which is a much harsher environment to survive in than McClane's peace ridden world. Obviously, he didn't since he went with Zan to kill the dragon.

His physique can't be ignored. He was fairly tough while Zan shrugged him off like a middle schooler.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you think the filmmakers went for the Quinn's a weak girly man then you are a liar.

Nothing in the above post actually refutes my point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Nothing in the above post actually refutes my point.
Quinn wasn't weak so Zan's manhandling of him is a pretty solid portrayal.

That still doesn't refute the point I made, try and keep up.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
DH 1:
Karls Brother,

Karl (who shot him, of course not stopping him in the slightest) 'til he strangled him so he could get on with saving the hostages. Expedient.

DH5: The Russian hood type who ploughed into him with Range Rover (which he shrugged off, of course)

Secret service killer how had a Machine Gun on McClane quick barge, one hook BAM out of it.

The main guy

And everyone in between who he beat h2h the finished off with a crowd pleasing method that could imaginatively involve non weapons like a door, icicle, anything.

'Cause McClane is a dirty natural born killer.

Zan has no chance at all.

Derp.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That still doesn't refute the point I made, try and keep up.
Yes, it does. Great hth portrayal which sets his average as much higher than McClane's.

U mad.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does. Great hth portrayal which sets his average as much higher than McClane's.

Being unable to ko an average person is not a better feat than beating mutiple people in HTH.

I can see this thread hitting 200 pages.

He mad.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
U mad.
This tactic is quite prevalent here. Has it ever worked ?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Being unable to ko an average person is not a better feat than beating mutiple people in HTH.
Treating him like he was nothing does mean something. McClane usually has the aid of a weapon, a stupid villain moment, or aid from another person.

Again, Being unable to ko an average person is not a better feat than beating mutiple people in HTH.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was the leader in a post apocalyptic environment which is a much harsher environment to survive in than McClane's peace ridden world. Obviously, he didn't since he went with Zan to kill the dragon.

His physique can't be ignored. He was fairly tough while Zan shrugged him off like a middle schooler.

None of that is a H2H feat.

Originally posted by Robtard
None of that is a H2H feat.
Beating someone up in hand to hand combat is a hand to hand feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Being unable to ko an average person is not a better feat than beating mutiple people in HTH.
They pulled him off of Quinn.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ne in hand to hand combat is a hand to hand feat.

What?

Originally posted by Robtard
What?
Fixed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fixed.

Beating someone up in hand to hand combat is a hand to hand feat.

And how did Quinn beat up? Cos you were mentioning his leadership skills and his physique previously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They pulled him off of Quinn.

And Quinn wasn't that injured, which makes the feat far less impressive than McClane killing someone in HTH.