Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Originally posted by quanchi112
nah, men have more testosterone in their bodies then women. Fact.

Zan laughs off punches whereas McClane bleeds and fumbles around for a weapon to save him. Not saving him here. Zan, 10/10.

Why would I be mad that Zan beats McClane like a mule ?

Depends.

Zan did not laugh at all. And we saw him rocked by the village weakling. Whats odd though is that his opponent took 5-6 free unguarded shots and a headbutt and 'laughed it off', making your chosen position here both unhilariously silly, and analogous to a guy saying "Look! My arsehole is super duper strong and invulnerable....look how it only bleeds 6 pints as I shove a baseballbat up it...!!!!!" and actually posting it on the net over and over again.

Indeed. Im gonna point out that its most likely because it would never happen.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I guess Scenario was right about that "Quan-Tum Fizzix" parody.

I ask you, what the flying f**k does testosterone have to do with how well a chick can kick you @$$, or anyone elses for that matter?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Depends.

Zan did not laugh at all. And we saw him rocked by the village weakling. Whats odd though is that his opponent took 5-6 free unguarded shots and a headbutt and 'laughed it off', making your chosen position here both unhilariously silly, and analogous to a guy saying "Look! My arsehole is super duper strong and invulnerable....look how it only bleeds 6 pints as I shove a baseballbat up it...!!!!!" and actually posting it on the net over and over again.

Indeed. Im gonna point out that its most likely because it would never happen.

Zan treated his punches like they did not even phase him. McClane on the other hand was disarmed despite his skill, experience, superior size, testosterone advantage despite going up against an unarmed woman.

Hit the gym, Johnny boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Testosterone is the major reason behind men being physically more capable than women. Look at any sport. The top men are always better than the top women. Average men are better than average women. It's science.

No dude. What it means is that Men are physically stronger than women in the upper body, but there is more to fighting than pure brute strength, and anyone who has fought as a profession will tell you the exact same thing. But your ignorance on these matters is not suprising in the least.

This is the Mary Poppins VS Van Zan fight all over again.

And we all how that turned out.

Correct, Van Zan is clearly outclassed in this and that thread, but fanboi will be fanboi 🙂

Yeah Quan's self respect integrity just likes to come here to get masochistically slidey-pump pumped.

He can't help it: Its his way.

McClane wins, Quan cries, the sun will rise again tommorrow and fall again...life goes on.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No dude. What it means is that Men are physically stronger than women in the upper body, but there is more to fighting than pure brute strength, and anyone who has fought as a profession will tell you the exact same thing. But your ignorance on these matters is not suprising in the least.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yeah Quan's self respect integrity just likes to come here to get masochistically slidey-pump pumped.

He can't help it: Its his way.

McClane wins, Quan cries, the sun will rise again tommorrow and fall again...life goes on.

Bags don't hit back, killing the puncher and getting 5 sequels..

Growling, grunting and failing to inflict any damage to opponents with 5/6 free shots and a headbutt does not place a guy in position to beat a nigh on invincible demigod of violence.

But we do get that McConaughegheaugheyghey's balls rest permanently on your crusted chin though.

We arent to judge: Good luck to you in your fantasies.

But for intelligence's sake, please stop trying to say that the ant beats the elephant in the "who weighs more" stakes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes, which means men hold the advantage. So the best men will always beat the best women as will the average men will always beat the majority of the average women. Try and understand what I say from now on.

She was not the average woman, unless you think that the average chick serving you down 7/11 will have tanking car collision damage soak, highly trained MA skill and speed that would make Blurr from G1 Transformers cack hexnuts through his eyesockets..

She lost in the 1st-to-the-KO competition, lost in the staying alive competion between her and McClane.

Your ad nauseum repetition of RJ's old erroneus 'argument'/total fallacy confirms that you are incapable of:

A) Seeing what is on a moviescreen

B) Thinking for yourself

C) Recognising obvious truths on any level

D) Ability to stop with you showpony "look how dumb I am" masochistic attention seeking via emulation of posters whom you would evidentally like to fellate on a daily basis.

Just saw Reign of Fire on DVD.

Van Zan loses in a horrific, spitetastic fashion.

Yes indeed.

7 more pgs........ 😆

can't this silly thread go back to being dead now

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes, which means men hold the advantage. So the best men will always beat the best women as will the average men will always beat the majority of the average women. Try and understand what I say from now on.

It means, they hold ONE advantage, you drooling sexist retard.

Men generally (And even then, not always) have higher overall physical strength, that's true, but women actually have better pain thresholds (going through childbirth proves this), better stamina and endurance (Their muscle structure enables them to lift and carry said children over incredible distances and for extended periods of time without getting too fatigued or tired to the point of dropping them, meanwhile men's muscular structure is, by design built for brief bursts of raw strength, designed more for fighting other males in short term competition), and because of their smaller frame, women can generally move quicker than men do.

Every side has advantages and disadvantages, don't overplay the physical strength card too much Quan, you misogynistic prick,

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
She was not the average woman, unless you think that the average chick serving you down 7/11 will have tanking car collision damage soak, highly trained MA skill and speed that would make Blurr from G1 Transformers cack hexnuts through his eyesockets..

She lost in the 1st-to-the-KO competition, lost in the staying alive competion between her and McClane.

Your ad nauseum repetition of RJ's old erroneus 'argument'/total fallacy confirms that you are incapable of:

A) Seeing what is on a moviescreen

B) Thinking for yourself

C) Recognising obvious truths on any level

D) Ability to stop with you showpony "look how dumb I am" masochistic attention seeking via emulation of posters whom you would evidentally like to fellate on a daily basis.

She drummed McClane despite him having a weapon on her.

I do think for myself unlike you. Irony.

McClane is used to taking beatdowns., screen feats support this. Zan ethers him.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It means, they hold ONE advantage, you drooling sexist retard.

Men generally (And even then, not always) have higher overall physical strength, that's true, but women actually have better pain thresholds (going through childbirth proves this), better stamina and endurance (Their muscle structure enables them to lift and carry said children over incredible distances and for extended periods of time without getting too fatigued or tired to the point of dropping them, meanwhile men's muscular structure is, by design built for brief bursts of raw strength, designed more for fighting other males in short term competition), and because of their smaller frame, women can generally move quicker than men do.

Every side has advantages and disadvantages, don't overplay the physical strength card too much Quan, you misogynistic prick,

Compare any long distance male elite runner to a female runner. Get out of here with this nonsense. Men are physically superior to men. Its science not sexism. Testosterone.

Calm down. I'm right. Zan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
McClane is not an average man so quit acting like I am comparing average to above average.

She drummed McClane despite him having a weapon on her.

I do think for myself unlike you. Irony.

McClane is used to taking beatdowns., screen feats support this. Zan ethers him.

Strawman.
You've totally been saying (utterly erroneously) that she was a mere woman and that she beat McClane (mistaken to the power of near infinity)...so don't try to give it that.

If the snarehead knocked her out, and the kickdrum severed the rest of her limbs whilst putting an SUV up her bum, then yeah she "drummed him". 🙄

If you thought that then that shows how poor your 'thinking' really is.. and that IS irony.

Beatdowns he wins at. Unlike Van Zan. Screen feats support this. Cry more.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Strawman.
You've totally been saying (utterly erroneously) that she was a mere woman and that she beat McClane (mistaken to the power of near infinity)...so don't try to give it that.

If the snarehead knocked her out, and the kickdrum severed the rest of her limbs whilst putting an SUV up her bum, then yeah she "drummed him". 🙄

If you thought that then that shows how poor your 'thinking' really is.. and that IS irony.

Beatdowns he wins at. Unlike Van Zan. Screen feats support this. Cry more.

Zan has never lost a fight. McClane needs weapons and unfair advantages to win. Zan wins again.