Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
but women actually have better pain thresholds (going through childbirth proves this),

Otherwise I agree with most of your points, and quan's hilariously sexist lowballing of Mai Linh is just another one of his clownish routines.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are both above average so the man should win. He got crushed by someone he is physically stronger than.

Zan has never lost a fight. McClane needs weapons and unfair advantages to win. Zan wins again.

So you are absolutely sure that they are both above average yet automatically she is far weaker in your biased estimation?

Crushed? Crusssshhhhhhhhhhedddd.... *checks DH4* Nope. Gonna have to point out that if anyone was crushed it was Ninjachick.
Beaten to the KO (She failed to KO McClane) and then killed by crushed at the bottom of a liftshaft, IIRC

He never participated in one. He was slapped silly by a starving low energy scientist in one shot then he failed to inflict any damage on that guy with 5/6 free shots including a headbutt.
This ranges his fight effectiveness up there with the common housefly, butterfly or moth against a human. You know when they do that flying into your head bit, and you fail to sustain any damage whatsoever?
Thats Van Zan. Hitting his hardest, and gruntiest and pose-eist.
We do get that you still fancy him though.

"Much harder hitter than Van Zan"

"Superior damage skills compared to the object of Quan's crush"

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong about everything save the pain threshold.

Compare any long distance male elite runner to a female runner. Get out of here with this nonsense. Men are physically superior to men. Its science not sexism. Testosterone.

Calm down. I'm right. Zan wins.

No, seriously, you are jumping all over yourself in a frothing mad rage to have a go at me, you NEED to lay off the crack man.

I also noticed your distinct lack of evidence in every way, congrats on conforming to your typical bland MO.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Not really true. There was an actual medical study done regarding this particular subject, and it appears that women experience general pain more intensely on average than men. Childbirth is one of the few exceptions, but in the overall pain tolerance area, males hold the advantage.

Otherwise I agree with most of your points, and quan's hilariously sexist lowballing of Mai Linh is just another one of his clownish routines.

Well, males generally have more power output per punch or kick than females do. But men tend to tire more quickly because that output is so high *Shrugs*

Still, I have to wonder where all Quan's impotent rage is coming from... It makes me think the girls beat him up in high school...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So you are absolutely sure that they are both above average yet automatically she is far weaker in your biased estimation?

Crushed? Crusssshhhhhhhhhhedddd.... *checks DH4* Nope. Gonna have to point out that if anyone was crushed it was Ninjachick.
Beaten to the KO (She failed to KO McClane) and then killed by crushed at the bottom of a liftshaft, IIRC

He never participated in one. He was slapped silly by a starving low energy scientist in one shot then he failed to inflict any damage on that guy with 5/6 free shots including a headbutt.
This ranges his fight effectiveness up there with the common housefly, butterfly or moth against a human. You know when they do that flying into your head bit, and you fail to sustain any damage whatsoever?
Thats Van Zan. Hitting his hardest, and gruntiest and pose-eist.
We do get that you still fancy him though.

"Much harder hitter than Van Zan"

"Superior damage skills compared to the object of Quan's crush"

Zan does not stop. McClane takes another epic beatdown.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

No, seriously, you are jumping all over yourself in a frothing mad rage to have a go at me, you NEED to lay off the crack man.

I also noticed your distinct lack of evidence in every way, congrats on conforming to your typical bland MO.

Well, males generally have more power output per punch or kick than females do. But men tend to tire more quickly because that output is so high *Shrugs*

Still, I have to wonder where all Quan's impotent rage is coming from... It makes me think the girls beat him up in high school...

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are wrong. Men are physically superior to women. Any sport or endurance event men are better than the best women. Science. Do I need to start reciting best times of endurance runs to prove my point. Hilarious you think women are better. Testosterone, brother. You seem to be lacking in it.

You are a complete fool, do you know that?

What, you think comparability is purely determined by frigging sport times? Are you dense or what? You don't even know the science behind it Quan, so quit trying to use that as an excuse, sporting time trials are not science, but sport.

Brain cells brother, you seem to be lacking them.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You are a complete fool, do you know that?

What, you think comparability is purely determined by frigging sport times? Are you dense or what? You don't even know the science behind it Quan, so quit trying to use that as an excuse, sporting time trials are not science, but sport.

Brain cells brother, you seem to be lacking them.

Saying woman have more endurance than men is hysterical. I'm still laughing. Testosterone, kiddo.

MEN VS. WOMEN IN THE ENDURANCE SPORTS WORLD
In the endurance sports world, the total number of athletes who compete in triathlons and open water swims remains skewed towards men. Both in triathlons in America and open water swims around the world, the percentage of participants in both sports are about the same (63 percent men versus 37 percent women).

In the marathon running world, the ratio of male participants to female participants is about 60 percent men to 40 percent.

In the running world, the average male time of four hours and 29 minutes remains faster than the average female time of four hours and 59 minutes.
At the highest echelons of the sport, the women's best time in the marathon only placed her 473 on the 2009 performance list for men and 3205 in history.

Wow. Tell us more dark storm. It's not even close.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is a sport but the reason men consistently are better is due to the testosterone advantage. Thats science proving it in a sporting event. I mean come on. You really are ignorant.

Saying woman have more endurance than men is hysterical. I'm still laughing. Testosterone, kiddo.

WAY to take what I said out of context you dishonest little shit.

You even flipped off my example and didn't give it a 2nd thought.

And here I was under the assumption that you knew that both sets of hormones are present in both genders, apparently I thought your one brain cell could handle that. I guess I should have known better.

Originally posted by quanchi112
*SNIP*

I'm pretty sure I just F**king well told you that sporting events are nothing to do with actual life or death combat, and are definitely not always scientifically accurate. Why? It does not take into account the rest of the population. You go to extremes, and you cherrypick ONE f**king thing, and you use it to generalize. Way to prove your bias.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
WAY to take what I said out of context you dishonest little shit.

You even flipped off my example and didn't give it a 2nd thought.

And here I was under the assumption that you knew that both sets of hormones are present in both genders, apparently I thought your one brain cell could handle that. I guess I should have known better.

I'm pretty sure I just F**king well told you that sporting events are nothing to do with actual life or death combat, and are definitely not always scientifically accurate. Why? It does not take into account the rest of the population. You go to extremes, and you cherrypick ONE f**king thing, and you use it to generalize. Way to prove your bias.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It means, they hold ONE advantage, you drooling sexist retard.

Men generally (And even then, not always) have higher overall physical strength, that's true, but women actually have better pain thresholds (going through childbirth proves this), better stamina and endurance (Their muscle structure enables them to lift and carry said children over incredible distances and for extended periods of time without getting too fatigued or tired to the point of dropping them, meanwhile men's muscular structure is, by design built for brief bursts of raw strength, designed more for fighting other males in short term competition), and because of their smaller frame, women can generally move quicker than men do.

Every side has advantages and disadvantages, don't overplay the physical strength card too much Quan, you misogynistic prick,

You said stamina and endurance. I am proving my point but actual facts whereas you just throw your incorrect opinion around. Learn from me. This should all be common sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said better stamina and endurance. Laughable. You are not knowledgeable. Calm down. Men have more testosterone than women hence the advantages. I mean you clearly do not know much.

Maybe I should have said mental fortitude then, would that appeal better to your damaged pride?

Testosterone provides certain advantages, yes, and certain disadvantages too, same as Estrogen. If you run on pure testosterone, your life is going to be very short and unpleasant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said stamina and endurance. I am proving my point but actual facts whereas you just throw your incorrect opinion around. Learn from me. This should all be common sense.

I said in various circumstances, you snip what you don't like with your beer goggles on as per usual.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Maybe I should have said mental fortitude then, would that appeal better to your damaged pride?

Testosterone provides certain advantages, yes, and certain disadvantages too, same as Estrogen. If you run on pure testosterone, your life is going to be very short and unpleasant.

I said in various circumstances, you snip what you don't like with your beer goggles on as per usual.

I am right. Cite anything to support your insane women have more endurance than men views. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, you are wrong and embarrassingly so. You have no evidence and just cite your own opinion and try to skew facts. The reason men are physically superior to women is more testosterone. I never said men just have testosterone. Quit trying to alter what I said just due to being dead wrong on your own. I am not sexist I am stating facts you are ignorant on.

Lol, you say that, but a chromosome does not actually do the work. You are tragically short sighted on this, that's why you warrant a severe mocking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am right. Cite anything to support your insane women have more endurance than men views. 😂

I already did, once more proving you just gloss over anything you don't like.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Lol, you say that, but a chromosome does not actually do the work. You are tragically short sighted on this, that's why you warrant a severe mocking.

I already did, once more proving you just gloss over anything you don't like.

Like I said more testosterone is why men have the advantage. Science.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, you are wrong and embarrassingly so. You have no evidence and just cite your own opinion and try to skew facts. The reason men are physically superior to women is more testosterone. I never said men just have testosterone. Quit trying to alter what I said just due to being dead wrong on your own. I am not sexist I am stating facts you are ignorant on.

I am right. Cite anything to support your insane women have more endurance than men views. 😂

Women were able to survive being f***ed by John Holmes, not many men were.

It doesnt strike me as shocking that you have zero idea about balance. DSZ has mauled you here. Time to stop crying about it.
Makes you look all estrogenical, Susan.

Your generalising is what makes you sexist. There are tonnes of other factors that make a difference ranging from psychology, training, diet, genetics, physical dimension etc etc and you ignore them to generalise on everyone based on (as DS pointed out) your one cherrypicked factor to obsess about.

Having testosterone was all Van Zan had and he was pure fail at fighting, talking, hair growth, thinking/strategising, and 'not rage suiciding'. The more balanced McClane would murder him to pieces all day everyday for ever and ever and ever.

You lose.

Mai Linh's initial domination of McClane has nothing to do with any physical/anatomical advantages that the average male has over the average female. It has purely to do with her skill in h2h combat, which McClane managed to overcome in their rematch. From an objective viewpoint, Mai could have killed both Quinn and Van Zan in a matter of minutes under similar circumstances. She is simply that awesome of a fighter, which has nothing to do with her sex. If McClane overcame her in their rematch, then he would pulverize a guy like Van Zan in 10 seconds.

Quite as simple as that.

Very true: However, he overcame her twice. He KO'd her in Rd1, then when she came back for more after waking up, her killed her terminatrix ass.

Poi-menently.

Mai quickly and easily overpowered and immobilized the untrained Farrell when he charged at her.

Van Zan struggled in the dirt in a homosexual foreplay with the untrained Quinn, before cuming out on top.

Based on an objective comparison, McClane>Mai Linh>>>>>>>>>Van Zan>Quinn=Farrell.

But Quinn is Batman.

McClane is the Unbreakable Superhero.