Originally posted by Korto Vos
Windu does use Force Push or Pull BTW.
I do not remember it happening in any of the films. (Seriously...I don't remember it.)
Originally posted by Korto Vos
See what I said to L2. Probability is my basis.
I covered your argument concerning that line of reasoning, already.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
If we are to consider out-of-character battle strategies/moves, then yes, you would be right with what you said above.In which case I would concede.
That's good enough for me: as long as we argue on the same page and come to an agreement, there's no problem.
I still do not agree with your in character assessment, but I'll never convince you otherwise.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Hmm, well once the figure emerges from the cloud of smoke, the Blinding Light would still be effective.
I thought the same, 2 years ago, against RJ: he pwned me by showing that they clearly can still do magic in their full cloud forms : the bridge was taken out that way. Yes, I have been wrong and pwned in the past. 😐
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Gandalf fired Blinding Light at a moving target before (the Nazgul on the Fell Beasts).The brightness was on the lowest level in that instance. Against the Uruk-Hai and Nazgul, the brightness was much more powerful.
The problem is not that we necessarily disagree, here. It is just that...it is a useless argument to begin with.
On top of that, even if we indulge your argument, we still end up with an argumentative conflict on your part: is he going to act in character or not? If so, he will use the low-powered version against human foes on the ground....and super mode on beastly/ghastly/large figures.
In other words, even if we assume that either option is useful for blinding someone, via biological weakness, that uses cones and rods for detetecting EMR (electromagnetic radiation), he has several recourses and even immunities:
1. Cloud form. No cones and rods to biologically overwhelm with blinding light.
2. "Accio dilluminator" 😆 WHAT NOW BIRCH! WWHHHAT NOW!!! 😆
3. confundus
4. Stupify
5. Apparating...which should have ended the thread in the very first reply.
6. And a whole laundry list of spells.
Now, I do agree that we can't give Voldemort every last spell ever seen..ever. However, the more common ones should be given to one of if not the most magically and technically minded wizards in the series. This is the same reason I would also give Gandalf the ability to cast the fireball Saruman cast AT Gandalf: Gandalf obviously has some sort of PK control/abilities and it seems fundamental to all LotR wizards. ****, I'd give it to Sauron, as well. Why not? But, I would also contend, in a thread, that we may not be able to give Saruman the lightning attack Gandalf did...and then take away Gandalf's fireball ability by doing so. But I don't like to argue like that because it's...well...childish. I hated it when RJ did it (but he did it to prove a point most of the time).
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Okay.
Meow.
kitty
Originally posted by Korto Vos
All right, tell me the name of the video.
Nah.
Just look back a few pages and you'll see it. Volde insta-responds to an expelliarmus attempt from Harry. That should give you a hint.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
👆I have no counterargument against such brilliant statements.
You should never be serious business in the face of not so serious. estahuh
Originally posted by Placidity
YouTube video
Oh...that. Yeah...that.
Korto, brush your teeth and put lipstick on: you now must suck Voldemort's balls. You'll definitely enjoy his cowck as it is slytherin in your throat. hmm I know your response is "it is not in teh characterz main!"
Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not remember it happening in any of the films. (Seriously...I don't remember it.)
Windu Force Pulls his lightsaber
I covered your argument concerning that line of reasoning, already.That's good enough for me: as long as we argue on the same page and come to an agreement, there's no problem.
I still do not agree with your in character assessment, but I'll never convince you otherwise.
By covering it, do you mean calling it PIS/CIS? Because the whole probability/battle strategies line of reasoning is meant to counter that.
Fair enough.
Well, if you consider the in-character assessment/typical battle maneuvers, then Voldemort loses 😉
I thought the same, 2 years ago, against RJ: he pwned me by showing that they clearly can still do magic in their full cloud forms : the bridge was taken out that way. Yes, I have been wrong and pwned in the past. 😐
Hmm...I actually see them as in complete physical form, but rather wrapped in black smoke.
Like, see this:
You see the Auror and Death Eater, both in "smoke" forms, tussling in the air while maintaining shape. This makes me inclined to think that a spell like Blinding Light would actually be effective even against this form.
The problem is not that we necessarily disagree, here. It is just that...it is a useless argument to begin with.On top of that, even if we indulge your argument, we still end up with an argumentative conflict on your part: is he going to act in character or not? If so, he will use the low-powered version against human foes on the ground....and super mode on beastly/ghastly/large figures.
In other words, even if we assume that either option is useful for blinding someone, via biological weakness, that uses cones and rods for detetecting EMR (electromagnetic radiation), he has several recourses and even immunities:
1. Cloud form. No cones and rods to biologically overwhelm with blinding light.
2. "Accio dilluminator" 😆 WHAT NOW BIRCH! WWHHHAT NOW!!! 😆
3. confundus
4. Stupify
5. Apparating...which should have ended the thread in the very first reply.
6. And a whole laundry list of spells.
The Blinding Light + Shield is just the defense to block the spell stream of Voldemort's while Gandalf instantly burns (or shatters, but that is contended) the wizard's wand, thereby rendering him more-or-less screwed.
And lol, no, I'm sure that's some logical fallacy of yours. He didn't blind them because he obviously saw they weren't Orcs or Nazgul or wicked Men (he probably knew they were his friends). He also wanted to hide his presence. Against actual opponents, the magnitude of his Blinding Light skyrockets. Besides, Voldemort doesn't look like the average Joe either. Tall, emaciated, sickly pale, screwed-up nose, no facial hair, yeahh...looks pretty "beastly" and "ghastly" to me.
Now, I do agree that we can't give Voldemort every last spell ever seen..ever. However, the more common ones should be given to one of if not the most magically and technically minded wizards in the series. This is the same reason I would also give Gandalf the ability to cast the fireball Saruman cast AT Gandalf: Gandalf obviously has some sort of PK control/abilities and it seems fundamental to all LotR wizards. ****, I'd give it to Sauron, as well. Why not? But, I would also contend, in a thread, that we may not be able to give Saruman the lightning attack Gandalf did...and then take away Gandalf's fireball ability by doing so. But I don't like to argue like that because it's...well...childish. I hated it when RJ did it (but he did it to prove a point most of the time).
I mean no, Voldemort is a magical genius and likely knows all the spells out there. It's just in the films he overly relies on AK to just OHKO his enemies. If the movies consistently have him utilizing a plethora of opening spells across the films, the case could be argued he has no standard set of opening moves and that he can do anything. But AK or an AK-resembling spell has been the first spell cast in the majority of his combat appearances.
Meow.
kitty
Nah.
Just look back a few pages and you'll see it. Volde insta-responds to an expelliarmus attempt from Harry. That should give you a hint.
You should never be serious business in the face of not so serious. estahuh
Oh...that. Yeah...that.
Korto, brush your teeth and put lipstick on: you now must suck Voldemort's balls. You'll definitely enjoy his cowck as it is slytherin in your throat. hmm I know your response is "it is not in teh characterz main!"
According to kVian Theory, Gandalf emerges as the winner. Violation of a key kVian Postulate may result in Voldemort emerging as the winner.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Windu Force Pulls his lightsaber
So only force pull. So based on your "logic", Windu can only force pull. ALL DA REST OF THE TK IS OOFFFFF LIMITS!
Originally posted by Korto Vos
By covering it, do you mean calling it PIS/CIS? Because the whole probability/battle strategies line of reasoning is meant to counter that.
No, you have that backwards.
The "whole probability/battle strategies" was countered by the "that's PIS/CIS" arguments. There is literally no counter to what I said about that: not only does it do nothing for you IF we pretend that CIS/PIS is on, when you don't try and gimp one side for a win, it becomes that much more of a victory for voldemort.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Fair enough.Well, if you consider the in-character assessment/typical battle maneuvers, then Voldemort loses 😉
Actually, no, not even then. I've explained why, already, as well. Remember the whole thing "that entire line of reasoning is moot, anyway" argument?
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Hmm...I actually see them as in complete physical form, but rather wrapped in black smoke.Like, see this:
You see the Auror and Death Eater, both in "smoke" forms, tussling in the air while maintaining shape. This makes me inclined to think that a spell like Blinding Light would actually be effective even against this form.
No, this, where they not only are at times complete smoke, but go invisible, too:
There's other portions where they pass right through each other, as well: but I could not find a video of that. Might be order of the Phoenix.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
The Blinding Light + Shield is just the defense to block the spell stream of Voldemort's while Gandalf instantly burns (or shatters, but that is contended) the wizard's wand, thereby rendering him more-or-less screwed.
Covered that already. Why do you do this?
Originally posted by Korto Vos
And lol, no, I'm sure that's some logical fallacy of yours. He didn't blind them because he obviously saw they weren't Orcs or Nazgul or wicked Men (he probably knew they were his friends). He also wanted to hide his presence. Against actual opponents, the magnitude of his Blinding Light skyrockets. Besides, Voldemort doesn't look like the average Joe either. Tall, emaciated, sickly pale, screwed-up nose, no facial hair, yeahh...looks pretty "beastly" and "ghastly" to me.
That's all speculation and baseless. It has no place in this thread. GTFO with that speculation.
Fact: against monsters, he makes brighter blinding light. Against humanoids, he doesn't.
Deal with it and move on. You cannot refute those because that's what actually happened.
By your logic, that's what Gandalf will do because that's in character.
Wait...didn't I already explain this to you?
Additionally, even IF you remove Voldemort's wand, he still wins with ease against Gandalf. Voldemort can come to the fight completely naked.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
I mean no, Voldemort is a magical genius and likely knows all the spells out there. It's just in the films he overly relies on AK to just OHKO his enemies. If the movies consistently have him utilizing a plethora of opening spells across the films, the case could be argued he has no standard set of opening moves and that he can do anything. But AK or an AK-resembling spell has been the first spell cast in the majority of his combat appearances.
Regardless, he can still win with TK, alone. He has shown a great afinity for TK.
HOWEVER, that's a horribly failed argument on your part because it is invoking CIS/PIS SIMPLY to net a win.
You already admitted he could not win if you turn CIS/PIS off, therefore, this discussion is moot: it is already off.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
According to kVian Theory, Gandalf emerges as the winner. Violation of a key kVian Postulate may result in Voldemort emerging as the winner.
GTFO with that psycho babble bullshit.
So, basically, you started repeating your points, again, or failing to counter what I said.
I noticed that the proper responses to what you said were the same exact points already made in the past.
Do you have anything else?
Blinding light is out: just makes Gandalf a target.
Even IF you turn on CIS/PIS to try and win, Gandalf still loses quite quickly.
So those were your last two hold outs? Trying to gimp one side and a useless light spell? That's it? I mean...really? Did you think there was something groundbreaking with those?
Originally posted by dadudemon
So only force pull. So based on your "logic", Windu can only force pull. ALL DA REST OF THE TK IS OOFFFFF LIMITS!
No, that is my not my "logic." Windu employed telekinesis (which includes Force Pull and Force Push) to grab his lightsaber, meaning he can also use telekinesis to push away objects/individuals as well.
No, you have that backwards.The "whole probability/battle strategies" was countered by the "that's PIS/CIS" arguments. There is literally no counter to what I said about that: not only does it do nothing for you IF we pretend that CIS/PIS is on, when you don't try and gimp one side for a win, it becomes that much more of a victory for voldemort.
Umm no...that doesn't counter it.
You: Your argument is PIS/CIS.
Me: How so? The typical battle strategies/maneuvers of a character have to be taken into consideration.
Evidence demonstrates high probability of Voldemort opening with AK or an AK-resembling spell.
You: That is PIS/CIS.
Me: That's NOT PIS/CIS. PIS/CIS would be the Witch-King shattering Gandalf's staff, which is contradictory to the book and Ralph Bakshi's film adaptation.
You: You are gimping one side.
Me: No I'm not; I'm doing this for both Gandalf AND Voldemort.
Actually, no, not even then. I've explained why, already, as well. Remember the whole thing "that entire line of reasoning is moot, anyway" argument?
No, you haven't.
You keep just saying "I've explained why" or some variant of that over and over again, but I've yet to seen an argument from you saying why something implicit as typical battle strategies/maneuvers of a character is PIS/CIS or a form of gimping, especially if it's being done for both sides.
This thread has spanned for too many pages. If you want to just end it once and for all, just say it, no re-pasting already debated crap, in your next response why that's wrong.
No, this, where they not only are at times complete smoke, but go invisible, too:There's other portions where they pass right through each other, as well: but I could not find a video of that. Might be order of the Phoenix.
I gave you a link in my previous response...
...and chances are Muggles, being non-magical beings, aren't able to see such things. Regardless you can see the black smoke of the Death Eaters on the bridge in any case. Gandalf would see it. And based on my previous video link, spells would be effective against it.. Of course, this doesn't even matter. Voldemort wouldn't go into smoke form at the start of 3 2 1 Go! anyway.
Covered that already. Why do you do this?
Because of instead of just simply stating X Y Z, you just say "I already covered it" or repeat some older post to which I had already responded to.
That's all speculation and baseless. It has no place in this thread. GTFO with that speculation.Fact: against monsters, he makes brighter blinding light. Against humanoids, he doesn't.
Deal with it and move on. You cannot refute those because that's what actually happened.
By your logic, that's what Gandalf will do because that's in character.
Wait...didn't I already explain this to you?
Additionally, even IF you remove Voldemort's wand, he still wins with ease against Gandalf. Voldemort can come to the fight completely naked.
This is by far an incredibly stupid statement. First of all, excuse me, that is NOT "baseless speculation." Learn what "baseless speculation" is before you just stamp that onto your opponent's argument when you have no counter.
Seriously quit being purposefully stupid. I know you are more intelligent than that:
1. Gandalf can differentiate friend from enemy, and knew he shouldn't eye-rape friends with his light. 2. Gandalf needed some minor defense against the ambush of these friendlies. 3. Gandalf wanted to disguise himself.
Those three reasons explain why Blinding Light was at lower magnitude. Against enemies, the Blinding Light is brighter; it's based on enmity, not race.
Blinding Light doesn't work like:
Gandalf, "Oh, my opponent isn't a Nazgul or Orc, therefore the luminosity of my spell will be at 25%."
Seriously c'mon man:
Without his wand, Voldemort WILL lose.
Granted, he could Apparate from the scene, in which case, I consider that as a loss.
Regardless, he can still win with TK, alone. He has shown a great afinity for TK.HOWEVER, that's a horribly failed argument on your part because it is invoking CIS/PIS SIMPLY to net a win.
You already admitted he could not win if you turn CIS/PIS off, therefore, this discussion is moot: it is already off.
1. And how will he just win with TK alone?
Are you talking about the instance when he charged at a mentally- damaged not-ready-for-battle Harry and knocked him down with his TK in GOF?
Are you talking about the instance when he still had to snarl and bring down his hand briskly with exertion to disarm a slowly-turning again mentally-damaged unprepared Potter in OOTP?
Okay, fine, I'll give to Voldemort that he has proficiency in TK. But pray tell me when he demonstrates any more powerful TK than Saruman's?
2. Unfortunately for you, my argument isn't CIS/PIS whatsoever.
You could say if you turn off character typical battle strategies/maneuvers and probability, then Gandalf wouldn't win.
GTFO with that psycho babble bullshit.So, basically, you started repeating your points, again, or failing to counter what I said.
I noticed that the proper responses to what you said were the same exact points already made in the past.
Do you have anything else?
Blinding light is out: just makes Gandalf a target.
Even IF you turn on CIS/PIS to try and win, Gandalf still loses quite quickly.
So those were your last two hold outs? Trying to gimp one side and a useless light spell? That's it? I mean...really? Did you think there was something groundbreaking with those?
Yes, I clearly enjoy babbling like a psycho. 🙄
BTW, can you tell me what defense Voldemort's wand has against being instantly burned?
Like I said:
The Blinding Light + Shield is just the defense to block the spell stream of Voldemort's while Gandalf instantly burns (or shatters, but that is contended) the wizard's wand, thereby rendering him more-or-less screwed.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
No, that is my not my "logic." Windu employed [B]telekinesis (which includes Force Pull and Force Push) to grab his lightsaber, meaning he can also use telekinesis to push away objects/individuals as well.Umm no...that doesn't counter it.
You: Your argument is PIS/CIS.
Me: How so? The typical battle strategies/maneuvers of a character have to be taken into consideration.
Evidence demonstrates high probability of Voldemort opening with AK or an AK-resembling spell.
You: That is PIS/CIS.
Me: That's NOT PIS/CIS. PIS/CIS would be the Witch-King shattering Gandalf's staff, which is contradictory to the book and Ralph Bakshi's film adaptation.
You: You are gimping one side.
Me: No I'm not; I'm doing this for both Gandalf AND Voldemort.
No, you haven't.
You keep just saying "I've explained why" or some variant of that over and over again, but I've yet to seen an argument from you saying why something implicit as typical battle strategies/maneuvers of a character is PIS/CIS or a form of gimping, especially if it's being done for both sides.
This thread has spanned for too many pages. If you want to just end it once and for all, just say it, no re-pasting already debated crap, in your next response why that's wrong.
I gave you a link in my previous response...
...and chances are Muggles, being non-magical beings, aren't able to see such things. Regardless you can see the black smoke of the Death Eaters on the bridge in any case. Gandalf would see it. And based on my previous video link, spells would be effective against it.. Of course, this doesn't even matter. Voldemort wouldn't go into smoke form at the start of 3 2 1 Go! anyway.
Because of instead of just simply stating X Y Z, you just say "I already covered it" or repeat some older post to which I had already responded to.
This is by far an incredibly stupid statement. First of all, excuse me, that is NOT "baseless speculation." Learn what "baseless speculation" is before you just stamp that onto your opponent's argument when you have no counter.
Seriously quit being purposefully stupid. I know you are more intelligent than that:
1. Gandalf can differentiate friend from enemy, and knew he shouldn't eye-rape friends with his light. 2. Gandalf needed some minor defense against the ambush of these friendlies. 3. Gandalf wanted to disguise himself.
Those three reasons explain why Blinding Light was at lower magnitude. Against enemies, the Blinding Light is brighter; it's based on enmity, not race.
Blinding Light doesn't work like:
Gandalf, "Oh, my opponent isn't a Nazgul or Orc, therefore the luminosity of my spell will be at 25%."
Seriously c'mon man:
Without his wand, Voldemort WILL lose.
Granted, he could Apparate from the scene, in which case, I consider that as a loss.
1. And how will he just win with TK alone?
Are you talking about the instance when he charged at a mentally- damaged not-ready-for-battle Harry and knocked him down with his TK in GOF?
Are you talking about the instance when he still had to snarl and bring down his hand briskly with exertion to disarm a slowly-turning again mentally-damaged unprepared Potter in OOTP?
Okay, fine, I'll give to Voldemort that he has proficiency in TK. But pray tell me when he demonstrates any more powerful TK than Saruman's?
2. Unfortunately for you, my argument isn't CIS/PIS whatsoever.
You could say if you turn off character typical battle strategies/maneuvers and probability, then Gandalf wouldn't win.
Yes, I clearly enjoy babbling like a psycho. 🙄
BTW, can you tell me what defense Voldemort's wand has against being instantly burned?
Like I said:
The Blinding Light + Shield is just the defense to block the spell stream of Voldemort's while Gandalf instantly burns (or shatters, but that is contended) the wizard's wand, thereby rendering him more-or-less screwed. [/B]
I did not bother reading your post. At this point, you have nothing.
Let me know, in your next reply, if you bring anything new to the discussion. I'll take the time to read it if you bring something new that isn't: "Derpy, blinding light. Derpy something CIS/PIS."
Edit - I read a bit...man...seriously?
My replies would be the same. Why do you think repeating your points with different words mean anything?
No, Mace cannot use anything except force Pull...and at that, he can only force pull enough to move the weight of a lightsaber. Those are your silly rules, remember? Deal with it. 😄
Yes, you baselessly speculated and that speculation contradicts screen feats AND your MO rule that you are arbitrarily implementing.
And "Pyscho babble" is short for "psychology talk". 😐
Originally posted by the ninjak
Gandalf incinerates Voldemort's guts from the inside out.Unless Voldemort has totems that keep him alive no matter what.
😆 😆 😆
I see what you did there. 😄
Originally posted by quanchi112
This better be sarcasm.
Read the second part of his post...
Additionally, Gandalf was never seen casting fire spells or magic...only resisting it.
Voldemort's PK is far superior to Gandalf's, by feats...so it doesn't matter anyway. Regardless, how is Gandalf supposed to set on fire a cloud of smoke that can instantly apparate anywhere AND go invisible?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I did not bother reading your post. At this point, you have nothing.Let me know, in your next reply, if you bring anything new to the discussion. I'll take the time to read it if you bring something new that isn't: "Derpy, blinding light. Derpy something CIS/PIS."
Edit - I read a bit...man...seriously?
My replies would be the same. Why do you think repeating your points with different words mean anything?
All right, thanks for the concession. You have NO counter and that's why you're just repeating yourself, again.
Like I said:
If you are going by in-character tendencies, and consider the typical battle maneuvers/strategies of the two combatants, Gandalf destroys Voldemort's wand within several seconds of the duel. And once that wand is destroyed, Voldemort is screwed.
If you are not considering these implicit factors, and I don't at all understand why you wouldn't, then Voldemort has more ways to win than Gandalf.
No, Mace cannot use anything except force Pull...and at that, he can only force pull enough to move the weight of a lightsaber. Those are your silly rules, remember? Deal with it. 😄Yes, you baselessly speculated and that speculation contradicts screen feats AND your MO rule that you are arbitrarily implementing.
No...it's telekinesis, the power to move objects.
And "Pyscho babble" is short for "psychology talk". 😐
Eh?
Originally posted by Korto Vos
All right, thanks for the concession. You have [B]NO counter and that's why you're just repeating yourself, again. [/B]
Actually, I went through and addressed the points you brought up.
Like I said, you bring up points that have been countered already.
That is not me conceding: that is you talking in circles (also a point I already made).
Like I said:
Originally posted by Korto Vos
If you are going by in-character tendencies,
Addressed why even doing that is wrong...and addressed why he still does not lose even IF CIS/PIS is on. See...you love your circles.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
and consider the typical battle maneuvers/strategies of the two combatants, Gandalf destroys Voldemort's wand within several seconds of the duel. And once that wand is destroyed, Voldemort is screwed.
Addressed this already.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
If you are not considering these implicit factors, and I don't at all understand why you wouldn't, then Voldemort has more ways to win than Gandalf.
Mostly because CIS/PIS is turned off in vs. discussions. You have to factor in that Gandalf would monologue Voldemort FIRST before taking action IF you're going to include in-character tendencies. That's just stupid and lame if you think about it.
On top of that, he still wins WITHOUT his wand, and with ease.
Keep his wand (because he has faster reaction feats than Gandy) and he wins faster than Gandalf can even do anything. That last part is a fact. No wand busting would happen.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
No...it's [B]telekinesis, the power to move objects. [/B]
No, it is one type of telekinesis: force pull.
Keep in mind, I'm only showing you why one of your arguments was stupid: voldemort cannot do easy-to-do spells that even first years can do, by your logic, despite the fact that he's a genius of almost no historical parallel in the magical world.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Eh?
QUAN: At first, I thought you were calling me the "tardo" because your last post was directly addressing me.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Korto-- You haven't proven he can destroy Voldemort's wand because it only occurred one time against a wizard he was more powerful than.
This is such a backwards point. Lol, you're basically saying that "Since Voldemort is already more powerful than Gandalf [even though that's exactly what this thread is trying to determine], Gandalf can't break his wand or do anything to him." I could just counter with, "Oh yeah? Gandalf is a higher being and more powerful than Voldemort, and so he can incinerate his stick/blind him/do whatever he wants against him." See how dumb that sounds?
Originally posted by RobtardI never said they can't be destroyed I said Gandalf isn't powerful enough to do so. Witch King sonned his ass. Condolences.
It was finished; you lost with your lack of proof nonsense arguments: "wands are conduits; conduits can't be destroyed, because they're conduits."Condolences.
Originally posted by -kV-Gandalf isn't more powerful. I am not saying Gandalf can't affect him I am only saying he isn't powerful enough to destroy his wand with him wielding it. Voldemort also seems to have far better reflexes than gandalf.
QUAN: At first, I thought you were calling me the "tardo" because your last post was directly addressing me.This is such a backwards point. Lol, you're basically saying that "Since Voldemort is already more powerful than Gandalf [even though that's exactly what this thread is trying to determine], Gandalf can't break his wand or do anything to him." I could just counter with, "Oh yeah? Gandalf is a higher being and more powerful than Voldemort, and so he can incinerate his stick/blind him/do whatever he wants against him." See how dumb that sounds?