Lord Mar-vell vs Thor....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A combined attack from Zeus, Odin, and Vishnu did nothing to Arishem. The Odin Destroyer's blows were doing nothing to a Celestial. Thor was able to damage a similar or exact same Celestial with an attack. A Skyfather level plus entity (Uni-Mind) was one shotted by a Celestial, attacks from Celestials were blowing holes in the Odin Destroyer. Thor withstood multiple attacks from Celestials.

There's literally no way you can twist that from Thor outperforming -a base level- Odin. It's stupid and an outlier but it's what happened.

That's not spinning that's a fact and Odin is more powerful than Thor by a country mile.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin's destroy attacks were tearing limbs off but weren't effective just like Thor's attacks weren't effective either. Despite Thor and Odin's best neither were a threat to a Celestial.

That's not spinning that's a fact and Odin is more powerful than Thor by a country mile.

I'm confused as to why you're referring to the Odin Destroyer. Thor and it performed were about on par in terms of effectiveness. I'm referring to base level Odin who's at least on par with other Skyfathers like Zeus, the incarnation that wrecked Thanos.

Thor outperformed that version, that's not debatable.

Let's get some judges and compare how (Base level) Odin/Thor fared against the Celestials in a battle zone. 🙂

Originally posted by rotiart
I was skimming through this page to get to the bottom...

I swore your post said:
I love phucking with rage.
I like beating trannys.

I actually scrolled back up... Lol. Wasn't even close.

😂 I know you must've been like "wait a minute WTF?"

But it's partially true. Rage is a tranny and I enjoy beating him/her/it. sneer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm confused as to why you're referring to the Odin Destroyer. Thor and it performed were about on par in terms of effectiveness. I'm referring to base level Odin who's at least on par with other Skyfathers like Zeus, the incarnation that wrecked Thanos.

Thor outperformed that version, that's not debatable.

Let's get some judges and compare how (Base level) Odin/Thor fared against the Celestials in a battle zone. 🙂

So Thor >>>>>>>>>Odin + 2 other Skyfathers?

A few questions, who'd win in a fight between the entire Eternal race + Zuras when combined into the Uni-Mind, Thor or the Uni-Mind? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Odin + Zeus + Vishnu? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Eternity?

Originally posted by zopzop
So Thor >>>>>>>>>Odin + 2 other Skyfathers?

A few questions, who'd win in a fight between the entire Eternal race + Zuras when combined into the Uni-Mind, Thor or the Uni-Mind? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Odin + Zeus + Vishnu? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Eternity?

😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm confused as to why you're referring to the Odin Destroyer. Thor and it performed were about on par in terms of effectiveness. I'm referring to base level Odin who's at least on par with other Skyfathers like Zeus, the incarnation that wrecked Thanos.

Thor outperformed that version, that's not debatable.

Let's get some judges and compare how (Base level) Odin/Thor fared against the Celestials in a battle zone. 🙂

Thanos isn't in the thread. 😂

See here you go again with the battlezone challenge. Get one under your belt this isn't something which interests me.

Originally posted by zopzop
So Thor >>>>>>>>>Odin + 2 other Skyfathers?

A few questions, who'd win in a fight between the entire Eternal race + Zuras when combined into the Uni-Mind, Thor or the Uni-Mind? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Odin + Zeus + Vishnu? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Eternity?

Originally posted by zopzop
So Thor >>>>>>>>>Odin + 2 other Skyfathers?

Using the Celestials as a point of reference, he was in that arc.

Originally posted by zopzop
A few questions, who'd win in a fight between the entire Eternal race + Zuras when combined into the Uni-Mind, Thor or the Uni-Mind? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Odin + Zeus + Vishnu? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Eternity?

Uni-Mind should. The Skyfathers. Eternity.

Don't get the impression that I think Thor is beyond Skyfather level entities or that my opinion actually changes the nature of our discussion. You asked me for showings that support Thor being a threat to Lord Mar-Vell, a Trans, you didn't limit it to averages or non high end portrayals.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Using the Celestials as a point of reference, he was in that arc.

Uni-Mind should. The Skyfathers. Eternity.

Don't get the impression that I think Thor is beyond Skyfather level entities or that my opinion actually changes the nature of our discussion. You asked me for showings that support Thor being a threat to Lord Mar-Vell, a Trans, you didn't limit it to averages or non high end portrayals.

😂 I dare you to replace should with would. Can you do it?

Edit: Nevermind you caught it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's a false comparison since Thor used weapons. Weapons obviously affected the Celestials more Thor didn't go around blasting Celestials arms off or anything.

Thanos isn't in the thread. 😂

See here you go again with the battlezone challenge. Get one under your belt this isn't something which interests me.

Mjolnir is part of Thor's powerset, we can have separate discussions for a Mjolnirless Thor if you want. Do you finally admit Thor outperformed Skyfather level types in both dishing out and taking damage?

No matter how much you deny it, the comic won't change. A more logic argument would be pointing out the extreme nature of the showing make it pretty much irrelevant for a standard Thor. Of course that won't even matter here as Zopzop never made any restrictions.

Not surprised. You talk so much shit but never back it up.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Using the Celestials as a point of reference, he was in that arc.

Uni-Mind should. The Skyfathers. Eternity.

Don't get the impression that I think Thor is beyond Skyfather level entities or that my opinion actually changes the nature of our discussion. You asked me for showings that support Thor being a threat to Lord Mar-Vell, a Trans, you didn't limit it to averages or non high end portrayals.

Except that some of those showings, like in Thor 300, are so idiotic they defy common sense.

How can Thor do more damage with Mjolnir than his Father who created and empowered the god damn thing? Worse, his Father and TWO of his peers?!

It defies even comic book "logic".

Originally posted by zopzop
Except that some of those showings, like in Thor 300, are so idiotic they defy common sense.

How can Thor do more damage with Mjolnir than his Father who created and empowered the god damn thing? Worse, his Father and TWO of his peers?!

It defies even comic book "logic".

You asked for scenes that support Thor being a threat to Lord Mar-Vell. I gave you some. Not my problem if you don't like it.

Usually I don't resort to such an extreme (I haven't mentioned it in a long time actually) but the nature of the claim was so silly, I didn't care.

I'm honestly surprised that the idea that Thor could threaten Mar-Vell is so out of the realm of possibility by some considering his history of feats...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You asked for scenes that support Thor being a threat to Lord Mar-Vell. I gave you some. Not my problem if you don't like it.

Usually I don't resort to such an extreme (I haven't mentioned it in a long time actually) but the nature of the claim was so silly, I didn't care.

The nature of some of your examples are silly. Thor (read :Mjolnir) is able to damage a Celestial, but the CREATOR of the thing and his two near peers are unable to faze one with their COMBINED assault. This is right up there with the Firelord/Spiderman fiasco in terms of stupidity.

Originally posted by zopzop
The nature of some of your examples are silly. Thor (read :Mjolnir) is able to damage a Celestial, but the CREATOR of the thing and his two near peers are unable to faze one with their COMBINED assault. This is right up there with the Firelord/Spiderman fiasco in terms of stupidity.

Besides, Thor has other showings. *Points to Odin, Glory, Destroyer, Majeston Zelia, Galactus etc.*

not really--physical damage is OFTEN portrayed differently than energy-based attacks.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't have to like it.

Besides, Thor has other showings. *Points to Odin, Glory, Destroyer, Majeston Zelia, Galactus etc.*

Surtur, Jormangund, Ymir, Nul, Hela, Ultron, Chaos King, etc

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Surtur, Jormangund, Ymir, Nul, Hela, Chaos King, etc

NONE of those beings are in the same LEAGUE as the Celestias (possible exception being CK). What did he do to CK that was so impressive?

Originally posted by zopzop
NONE of those beings are in the same LEAGUE as the Celestias (possible exception being CK). What did he do to CK that was so impressive?

And?

The discussion here is whether or not a normal Thor can possibly threaten Mar-Vell, not whether or not Thor can legitimately defeat Celestials. This whole thing was spawned by your reply to my first post in this thread in which I stated a normal non-amped Thor can do as much.

Which he obviously can.

Thor damaged him (Chaos King) with a lightning bolt btw.

I have yet to see conclusive evidence supporting Mar-Vell being so far beyond heralds, let alone Thor.

Being able to affect the Chaos King who was a Multiversal level deity more or less on par with Eternity is more impressive than damaging a Celestial.

I guess Eternity wasn't talking shit when he said Thor posed a danger to him and Infinity. vin