Originally posted by zopzop
Not a fanboy, but I have an interest in the character (like I do with the PF and Thanos). Now Tyrant on the other hand............ 😄
PF?
Tyrant huh? That's cool. Peeps don't know it, but I'm probably a bigger fan of Animal Man and Iron Fist then I am of Nova. Maybe. Firestorm, Blue Beetle and Captain Comet come pretty close as well.
Originally posted by zopzopdid you read thor #300? the odinsword being hurled through a celestial is more of a feat for the sword than for thor, and then catching arishem off guard didn't happen again when thor tried it the next time they met (thor #387)
So Thor >>>>>>>>>Odin + 2 other Skyfathers?A few questions, who'd win in a fight between the entire Eternal race + Zuras when combined into the Uni-Mind, Thor or the Uni-Mind? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Odin + Zeus + Vishnu? Who'd win in a fight between Thor and Eternity?
thor didn't do better than the sky-fathers + eternals + asgardian weapons, but he did look really good fighting opponents FAR out of his weight class. he did the same in his losing war against the celestials in the "pangoria incident" which is nothing but consistent with thor #300.
thor destroying zelia and other trans---sky-father class beings and doing "okay" against the celestials shows classic thor's limit
Originally posted by psycho gundam
did you read thor #300? the odinsword being hurled through a celestial is more of a feat for the sword than for thor, and then catching arishem off guard didn't happen again when thor tried it the next time they met (thor #389)thor didn't do better than the sky-fathers + eternals + asgardian weapons, but he did look really good fighting opponents FAR out of his weight class. he did the same in his losing war against the celestials in the "pangoria incident" which is nothing but consistent with thor #300.
thor destroying zelia and other trans---sky-father class beings and doing "okay" against the celestials shows classic thor's limit
Was Thor defeating Shiva retconned? Because if not that would be another Skyfather level opponent he's managed to best.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was retconned into being another God pretending to be him because people of that religion got upset. Lol. It doesn't make sense as only a head of that pantheon could have granted him the energy that Shiva did but whatever.Let's hope Thor doesn't ever get into a fight with Jesus or something.
Was this the official reason for the retcon? I can't imagine Hindus, even religious Hindus, would care what happened in a comic in the 1980s.
Indra was also king of a pantheon, so even retconned it's not too far fetched.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
did you read thor #300? the odinsword being hurled through a celestial is more of a feat for the sword than for thor, and then catching arishem off guard didn't happen again when thor tried it the next time they met (thor #387)
I did read the issue, and it's not even a feat for the sword. Arishem ALLOWED the sword to pass through him so he could better analyze it's alien nature. Also he didn't catch Arishem unawares and knock him down. The attack was so beneath him that he didn't even bother to defend against it. It's all on panel.
thor didn't do better than the sky-fathers + eternals + asgardian weapons, but he did look really good fighting opponents FAR out of his weight class. he did the same in his losing war against the celestials in the "pangoria incident" which is nothing but consistent with thor #300.
Thor took multiple blasts from enraged Celesitals and managed to chip a piece off one of their armor's. THREE skyfathers combined their attack and couldn't scratch Arishem. The BS was thick that issue.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yes. What's going on? Because we just see lightening hitting CK and what's happening? Is he screaming in pain? Is he retreating from the assault? There's nothing on panel except Thor hitting him with lightening. That'd be like me throwing a hammer in his face, same result. Nothing.
The proper description is CK did get hurt.But not that badly hurt.But it was enough for Supergod Hercules to put his fist on CK's chin that sent him in the continuum.And CK is confirmed Multiversal by the statement stated on Herc#1 and Chaos War Trade Paper Back that Amadeus still possessed a portion of Supergod power that he gave Herc.
Originally posted by Igniz
The proper description is CK did get hurt.But not that badly hurt.But it was enough for Supergod Hercules to put his fist on CK's chin that sent him in the continuum.And CK is confirmed Multiversal by the statement stated on Herc#1 and Chaos War Trade Paper Back that Amadeus still possessed a portion of Supergod power that he gave Herc.
We know he was hurt how? He didn't have a mark on him. He didn't groan in pain. He didn't retreat. He didn't lash out from the pain.
Originally posted by zopzop
Also he didn't catch Arishem unawares and knock him down. The attack was so beneath him that he didn't even bother to defend against it. It's all on panel.[/B]
Originally posted by OneDumbG0 http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCelestials02.jpg
2nd encounter
Originally posted by OneDumbG0 http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCelestials05.jpg
Originally posted by psycho gundam
thanos imperative was horribly written and the fights were less than stellar, but mar-vell seemed like he could take some wins at least, let's not kid ourselves.
Of course.
I don't think anyone is against the view that Mar-Vell can't beat Thor. It just seems to be whether or not Thor has the stuff required to battle Mar-Vell and make it a competitive fight, which, unamped, he does, imho.
With the amps, I'm thinking Thor beats the cancer outta him.
Originally posted by zopzop
Was this the official reason for the retcon? I can't imagine Hindus, even religious Hindus, would care what happened in a comic in the 1980s.Indra was also king of a pantheon, so even retconned it's not too far fetched.
Indra was well respected in Hinduism, but for a serious Hindu, Thor beating Shiva would be sacrilege of the highest order.
Originally posted by zopzop
We know he was hurt how? He didn't have a mark on him. He didn't groan in pain. He didn't retreat. He didn't lash out from the pain.
Well before Thor summoned that lightning, CK was finishing 1 of his haiku sentence while putting his tendrills on SG Herc's eyes.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HerculesVsCK10.jpg?t=1303265333
Which led to this.
Now you can see that Thor was able to make CK let go of his hold on SG Herc with that lightning.You can see from CK's face that it had an effect on him.If you're asking for a sign of injury, then no.CK is the abstract that represents Darkness and Chaos(aka the naught before creation).
As for this topic.I think Thor being amped can beat Lord Marvel.Unamped, Thor would have problems.
Originally posted by Igniz
Well before Thor summoned that lightning, CK was finishing 1 of his haiku sentence while putting his tendrills on SG Herc's eyes.http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HerculesVsCK10.jpg?t=1303265333
Which led to this.
Now you can see that Thor was able to make CK let go of his hold on SG Herc with that lightning.You can see from CK's face that it had an effect on him.If you're asking for a sign of injury, then no.CK is the abstract that represents Darkness and Chaos(aka the naught before creation).
As for this topic.I think Thor being amped can beat Lord Marvel.Unamped, Thor would have problems.
Thank you for the context. It looks like he startled him. What went on next page?
