Galactus vs The Celestials...

Started by zopzop44 pages

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I disagree with the notion that the 2000ft Destroyer could have had success against any of the assembled Celestials one on one...

1st off, as was proved against Nezzar the Calculator, any of the cosmetic damage the Destroyer inflicted upon them was ultimately meaningless; the Celestials would just repair the damage and continue on like nothing happened...

2nd, one of them was able to casually turn away the Destroyers best attack...

When you take both of those facts into account, the 2000ft Destroyer would eventually lose to any single Celestial as there was really nothing lasting and meaningful it could do to them...

Buffet/Galactus, on the other hand, had proven himself to be strong enough to where as a single Celestial could not casually turn away his attacks...and Buffet/Galactus is seemingly able to inflict meaningful, lasting, damage against a Celestial whereas (once again) the Odin/Destroyer could not.

What you are ignoring LoM, is that the 2000ft Destroyer faced off against 616 Celestials. Galactus didn't.

What were their (the ALTERNATE REALITY Celestials) best feats and fights prior to their encounter with Galactus?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I disagree with the notion that the 2000ft Destroyer could have had success against any of the assembled Celestials one on one...

1st off, as was proved against Nezzar the Calculator, any of the cosmetic damage the Destroyer inflicted upon them was ultimately meaningless; the Celestials would just repair the damage and continue on like nothing happened...

2nd, one of them was able to casually turn away the Destroyers best attack...

When you take both of those facts into account, the 2000ft Destroyer would eventually lose to any single Celestial as there was really nothing lasting and meaningful it could do to them...

Buffet/Galactus, on the other hand, had proven himself to be strong enough to where as a single Celestial could not casually turn away his attacks...and Buffet/Galactus is seemingly able to inflict meaningful, lasting, damage against a Celestial whereas (once again) the Odin/Destroyer could not.

These are good points, Lord of Murder. In my opinion, though (as ZopZop concurs), the Earth-616 Celestials who took own The Destroyer appear to be somewhat more powerful than their Earth-3280 counterparts. Considering that a member of the Council of Reeds, armed with a super-weapon, was able to destroy one of the latter, I see no reason why Odin wouldn't be able to achieve the same feat.

On another note, bereft of "food", is Galactus basically rendered powerless? If so, that would sort of make him the cosmic Popeye of the Marvel universe -- dependent solely on his spinach for power.

"I'm strong to the finish cause I eats me spin..err.. planets.."

Originally posted by psycho gundam
here come the "odin can beat a celestial" arguments/threads, even though arishem pwnt him and his colleagues when most say odin was written way more powerful than he is currently, and he had a lot of back-up and weaponry.

Originally posted by zopzop
(the ALTERNATE REALITY Celestials)
You incessantly reiterate this. Why? Are you suggesting that they're weaker than their mainstream counterparts? If so, what's your evidence?

Originally posted by Galan007
You incessantly reiterate this. Why? Are you suggesting that they're weaker than their mainstream counterparts? If so, what's your evidence?
Reed pulled a gun out of his closet, killed one and ran them off.

But we ignore the part that it was a universe entropy gun, and a Celestial tanked the UN when it killed a Reed in the same page.

Originally posted by Galan007
You incessantly reiterate this. Why? Are you suggesting that they're weaker than their mainstream counterparts? If so, what's your evidence?

Look at the Council of Reed arc this crap came from. You have Reeds brandishing 7 or 8 alternate reality Ultimate Nullifiers to repel an alternate reality Galactus from an alternate Earth.

ONE Ultimate Nullifier did the job in 616 reality. That's just one example. I could dig up more but you get the point.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Reed pulled a gun out of his closet, killed one and ran them off.

But we ignore the part that it was a universe entropy gun, and a Celestial tanked the UN when it killed a Reed in the same page.

Thank you.

Originally posted by zopzop
Look at the Council of Reed arc this crap came from. You have Reeds brandishing 7 or 8 alternate reality Ultimate Nullifiers to repel an alternate reality Galactus from an alternate Earth.

ONE Ultimate Nullifier did the job in 616 reality. That's just one example. I could dig up more but you get the point.

They killed the Galactus and all of the Surfer's.

We didn't see the battle, we just saw them pull out of a lot of overkill.

Originally posted by zopzop
Look at the Council of Reed arc this crap came from. You have Reeds brandishing 7 or 8 alternate reality Ultimate Nullifiers to repel an alternate reality Galactus from an alternate Earth.

ONE Ultimate Nullifier did the job in 616 reality. That's just one example. I could dig up more but you get the point.

That alternate Galactus has nothing to do with the Mad Celestials. Who beat Franklin on-panel and the entire Council of Reeds off-panel.

Arishem>>no name celestials.
Arishem>>> galactus

So yes odin can beat no name celestials.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That alternate Galactus has nothing to do with the Mad Celestials. Who beat Franklin on-panel and the entire Council of Reeds off-panel.
I was just going to say that... IMHO, the "mad" Celestials seem *more* powerful than their 616 counterparts. /shrug

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Arishem>>no name celestials.
Arishem>>> galactus

So yes odin can beat no name celestials.

If you're going to make up random shit, at least try and tie it together.

Also, those Celestials weren't no names. They're alternate reality 4th Host Celestials.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Arishem>>no name celestials.

So yes odin can beat no name celestials.

... if there were any inferences of logic to this post, I'd attempt to deconstruct it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That alternate Galactus has nothing to do with the Mad Celestials. Who beat Franklin on-panel and the entire Council of Reeds off-panel.

But it does. Seven or Eight alt reality UN's vs one alt reality Galactus? It only took ONE UN in 616 reality.

Beating that Council of Reeds sans Infinity Gauntlet users is a nothing feat. Odin could have done it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That alternate Galactus has nothing to do with the Mad Celestials. Who beat Franklin on-panel and the entire Council of Reeds off-panel.

Originally posted by zopzop
But it does. Seven or Eight alt reality UN's vs one alt reality Galactus? It only took ONE UN in 616 reality.

Beating that Council of Reeds sans Infinity Gauntlet users is a nothing feat. Odin could have done it.

Did you see the battle?
Did you see that they actually needed those many UNs?

Or was it just overkill?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Did you see the battle?
Did you see that they actually needed those many UNs?

Or was it just overkill?

One Ultimate Nullifier is overkill, seven or eight of them is gang rape. The Reeds felt like they needed MULTIPLE UN"s to deal with ONE Galactus.

Originally posted by zopzop
But it does. Seven or Eight alt reality UN's vs one alt reality Galactus? It only took ONE UN in 616 reality.
You're assuming every UN was fired? Interesting. Seemed moreso like they were pressing an intimidation factor.

You DO remember the original Galactus saga, right? Reed simply had to SHOW Galactus the UN and he crapped his pants and ran away from earth.

Originally posted by Galan007
You're assuming every UN was fired? Interesting. Seemed moreso like they were pressing an intimidation factor.

You DO remember the original Galactus saga, right? Reed simply had to SHOW Galactus the UN and he crapped his pants and ran away from earth.

Yes, ONE UN is all it took and this was 616 reality versions.

Ugh.

Odin isn't beating Celestials, random alt. reality ones or not.