For anyone interested, there's a nice little interview with Jonathan Hickman and Axel Alonso that was recently posted up at the comicbookresources website. It also features preview art for the first couple of pages taken from the upcoming Fantastic Four #604. I wasn't expecting to see anything like that so soon.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ In my opinion, Galactus was winning... considering he tanked them attacking him simultaneously and defeated one of them without looking like he was significantly diminished in any proportional way, e.g., drained 25%.
yeah i tend to agree with this. finally read the arc. i don't see any reason to suppose these celestials wouldn't be equal to 616 celestials. i think this was an attempt to give g his due a little bit. the typical 'cosmic vs hero-level' aspects of the fight aside, they seem to have been depicted in a way that would suggest they are equal to their 616 counterparts.
brief aside--odin lasted WAYYYYYY longer against g than a celestial did.... 😖hifty:
^ And Galactus didn't eat the Sun in its entirety or break out his Worldship or call all of his wayward Heralds in to help or use the UN or move to eat/teleport Asgard or etc., etc. Heck... Galactus didn't even attack Odin at all, lol. And this brief exchange doesn't change the blunder which this statement represents:
Originally posted by zopzopI'd suggest that you clarify yourself and let people know you weren't being serious in any way whatsoever.
😆Odin could have taken one of those Celestials out one on one.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Isn't the whole point of Odin growing him amping off of Asgard?
In the past, when he opted to 'amp off' Asgard, much of the other Asgardians were left in a comatose state. In the recent battle with Galactus, no such thing took place. I think he just used the cosmic power within himself, i.e., the Odin power, to enlarge his physical presence.
^ True.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebThere probably isn't any sort of strict rule but evidence points to his gigantic form not being necessarily dependant on absorbing Asgard's power. If I remember correctly, when Set invaded Asgard the first time, Thor was off with the Odinpower fighting Surtur (and Thor was gigantic) and Odin was left in Asgard to fight Set, which he did by absorbing Asgard's power (also growing gigantic).
Isn't the whole point of Odin growing him amping off of Asgard?
Originally posted by Doon
In the past, when he opted to 'amp off' Asgard, much of the other Asgardians were left in a comatose state. In the recent battle with Galactus, no such thing took place. I think he just used the cosmic power within himself, i.e., the Odin power, to enlarge his physical presence.
Exactly. When Odin amps off Asgard it's usually mentioned on panel. It happened when he gave Thor the Odin power to fight off Surtur then he amped himself off the land of Asgard and took on Skyfather level Seth one on one and was winning till he got distracted.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'd suggest that you clarify yourself and let people know you weren't being serious in any way whatsoever.
Why? Odin stalemated Galactus in TP duel until he panicked and kamikazeed Galactus. Galactus was shattered but reformed. Odin was hurt and needed to jump into the Destroyer to continue that fight.
That's better than those Celestials did one on one vs Galactus. Odin could most definitely take one of them out.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Obviously you didn't take it as such zop but I'd like to think of the tp battle as something different opposed to a confrontation on the physical plane.
I get that and I wouldn't even bring it up if it was only the TP fight. It wasn't. Odin kamikazeed Galactus and shattered Galactus. That's more than any of those Celestials did prior to merging into Devestator/Voltron/Whatever.
Originally posted by zopzop
Why? Odin stalemated Galactus in TP duel until he panicked and kamikazeed Galactus. Galactus was shattered but reformed. Odin was hurt and needed to jump into the Destroyer to continue that fight.That's better than those Celestials did one on one vs Galactus. Odin could most definitely take one of them out.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Galactus didn't munch on 4 planets when he fought Odin. And that Mad Celestial didn't ko himself via headbutt.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
In the first physical attack...
Originally posted by zopzop
I get that and I wouldn't even bring it up if it was only the TP fight. It wasn't. Odin kamikazeed Galactus and shattered Galactus. That's more than any of those Celestials did prior to merging into Devestator/Voltron/Whatever.
Then again you have to ask yourself could this same effect be accomplished on a Galactus who just came back from a all you can eat buffet?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
here come the "odin can beat a celestial" arguments/threads, even though arishem pwnt him and his colleagues when most say odin was written way more powerful than he is currently, and he had a lot of back-up and weaponry.
Originally posted by zopzop
Why? Odin stalemated Galactus in TP duel until he panicked and kamikazeed Galactus. Galactus was shattered but reformed. Odin was hurt and needed to jump into the Destroyer to continue that fight.That's better than those Celestials did one on one vs Galactus. Odin could most definitely take one of them out.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
here come the "odin can beat a celestial" arguments/threads, even though arishem pwnt him and his colleagues when most say odin was written way more powerful than he is currently, and he had a lot of back-up and weaponry.
Originally posted by zopzop
Why? Odin stalemated Galactus in TP duel until he panicked and kamikazeed Galactus. Galactus was shattered but reformed. Odin was hurt and needed to jump into the Destroyer to continue that fight.That's better than those Celestials did one on one vs Galactus. Odin could most definitely take one of them out.
Haters gonna hate.