Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And we don't see Thing up for the rest of the issue. Taken out. Plus there was energy all over the place in that issue. It's hard to tell what was directed, and what was just background energy.
I'll try and make this as straightforward as possible. We see the Celestial blast Ben and continue to do so as he struggles:
http://i39.tinypic.com/33xau01.jpg
We only see it one more time again and it's an attack directed below (The Thing being the likely target in this case):
http://i41.tinypic.com/90wxeg.jpg
And when the Celestials combine blast the Fantastic Four, we see Thing struggling to get up (I'm guessing the combined attack takes him out):
http://i40.tinypic.com/fo0a8.jpg
So I think it's a pretty safe assumption that Thing was being blasted but kept on kicking for the duration of the fight unless I'm missing something.
Perhaps the Thing's best durability/endurance feat ever. 👆
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Hyperspace
Definitely a possibility, at least it makes more sense than her simply possessing the raw power.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Because his nova was more powerful than it's ever been... before he got the Cosmic Control Rod. Which would have amped him to quite a large degree. It wasn't a small attack, maybe a little questionable, but still. It still was instantly healed...
I repeat, what do you define as cosmic level? Johny Storm specifically referred to burning like the Sun in that scene and could burn even hotter thanks to his Cosmic Rod. I personally don't consider that cosmic but Hickman may very well might.
It's almost certainly a hyperbolic statement the way it was said but whatever.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2damvy0.jpg
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It was also drawing from four other sources. The art makes it look like it's taking energy from the Earth and the small sun between the Moon and Earth that's always been there.
Sol's Anvil was confirmed to draw energy from the Sun in the FF #15, the Earth bases apparently were just reinforcing the blast or whatever.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And I thought it obvious that what something draws on has no indication of their power level in comics. Other wise we have Superman never being above a sun level. Fallen One being infinite due to infinite power. Quaser, etc.
The thing blew apart something that just one shotted a very fed Galactus. Sun level? No. Plot device? Absolutely.
In terms of power, the weapon should be about as powerful as a portion of the Sun's energy from what I've seen. That isn't a bad thing though unless you're one of those guys that expects characters to always be busting Galaxies and shit all the time. I'm not going to really argue that Lee's Odin would shit on the Celestials just because he was operating on a higher scale. Sometimes above Top Tiers have been portrayed as only city level, it's comics.
Superman has all kinds of other shit going on by the way and where a character draws energy from depends on how much and their relation to the object. But like I said, I'm lenient in this case because it was a Reed designed weapon.
Anyways, it's clear that these Celestials aren't on the level of the early 616 Celestials but that's alright, not even the 616 Celestials are that revered anymore.
