Thor VS Wolverine (With a Red Lantern Ring)

Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't know where you get the gall to insult me

we used to debate thor vs hulk in circles and guess what...I was friggin right, marvel does intend that hulk is the more powerful of the two.

at that time, you called me dumb as well...but I was proven right.

You make it too easy not to.

I'm still not sure why you thought I would take the use of animated movies as evidence seriously.

You are dumb. At the very least, you pretend to be. I can understand ignorance, heck even the occasional flip flopping, it happens to everyone, but you....well anyone who has entered into a drawn out argument with you understands how I feel.

You throw out absolutely anything if you don't like it or use the most irrelevant of evidence because in some backward way it supports you.

Originally posted by Starscream M
and that seems perfectly plausible to you right?

Thor's weather manipulation goes beyond the constraints of what nature is typically capable of. One of the perks of being a God of Thunder, I'm sure.

The guy can create wind and lightning in space without any kind of atmosphere.

My god, Starscream, it's common knowledge that Thor's weather manipulation transcends what's natural or logical by normal standards. And yes, the fact that he's a god and said effects could be cited as "magic" or "mystical" in cases is entirely plausible given the fact that Thor shits on science day in and day out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You make it too easy not to.

I'm still not sure why you thought I would take the use of animated movies as evidence seriously.

You are dumb. At the very least, you pretend to be. I can understand ignorance, heck even the occasional flip flopping, it happens to everyone, but you....well anyone who has entered into a drawn out argument with you understands how I feel.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so...are you saying the rain drops weighed tons or something because they're magical? 😱

Right on cue.

Mocking what happened doesn't change the comic. This isn't some sort of anomaly, Thor's weather manipulation is both natural and supernatural. It always has been. He has never been limited by mother nature.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He has never been limited by mother nature.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's weather manipulation goes beyond the constraints of what nature is typically capable of. One of the perks of being a God of Thunder, I'm sure.

The guy can create wind and lightning in space without any kind of atmosphere.

My god, Starscream, it's common knowledge that Thor's weather manipulation transcends what's natural or logical by normal standards. And yes, the fact that he's a god and said effects could be cited as "magic" or "mystical" in cases is entirely plausible given the fact that Thor shits on science day in and day out.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so I pretend to be dumb by being proven right...ok I'll take that. I'm friggin glad the hulk-thor debate at least is finally settled, you used to get me heated when you were too stubborn to accept what was manifestly clear to unbiased fans.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm still not sure why you thought I would take the use of animated movies as evidence seriously.

Also, the debate is far from settled. Hulk hit a high point with Pak but everyone realizes that this won't last.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Right on cue.

Mocking what happened doesn't change the comic. This isn't some sort of anomaly, Thor's weather manipulation is both natural and supernatural. It always has been. He has never been limited by mother nature.

thor's lighting is still lightning, his winds are still winds...they're not somehow vastly different from the natural phenomenon

Originally posted by Starscream M
so are you saying those magical rain drops weighed tons each? is that seriously what you're implying?

If that makes you feel better, sure. I don't give a flying phuck.

Thor's lightning has damaged high end cosmic entities. I'm pretty sure "normal" lightning would have no such effect. Thor's winds have effected people who can fly through hurricanes without much effort and are typically immune to the side effects of flying supersonic and above.

The fact of the matter is Thor can manipulate weather and it can range from merely effecting the natural order of things or by taking it to an extreme level far beyond anything meteorologists would deem scientifically possible....which has happened so many times in comics it's not even funny.

😐

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't just label it supernatural and then assign it whatever properties you wish

thor's lighting is still lightning, his winds are still winds...they're not somehow vastly different from the natural phenomenon

Its magic.

Leave your butthurt at the door.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't just label it supernatural and then assign it whatever properties you wish

thor's lighting is still lightning, his winds are still winds...they're not somehow vastly different from the natural phenomenon

This doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm telling you what comics have made abundantly clear, this isn't stuff I'm making up. Thor's weather manipulation has always been beyond the limits of mother nature.

facepalm

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't just label it supernatural and then assign it whatever properties you wish

thor's lighting is still lightning, his winds are still winds...they're not somehow vastly different from the natural phenomenon

facepalm

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Magic doesnt have to make sense

Its magic.

Leave your butthurt at the door.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't just label it supernatural and then assign it whatever properties you wish

thor's lighting is still lightning, his winds are still winds...they're not somehow vastly different from the natural phenomenon

..you're seriously arguing that every Thor magic lightning showing is pis?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm telling you what comics have made abundantly clear, this isn't stuff I'm making up. Thor's weather manipulation has always been beyond the limits of mother nature.

facepalm

you can have magic as a power, but it still has limits or defined boundaries.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so then thor can win any debate fight by incurring 'magic'...which is bs. since there is no bounds on this magic, or logic.

WTF.

No, that's not true at all.

It's like you almost try to be obtuse.

His powers aren't limited by science or logic or the natural order of things like Storm, and even she pushes the envelope from time to time.

The comics state this, numerous times at that.

Originally posted by jalek moye
..you're seriously arguing that every Thor magic lightning showing is pis?

him creating raindrops that can stop or slow down hulk really makes absolutely no sense...and I wonder what shitty writer would write that.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF.

No, that's not true at all.

It's like you almost try to be obtuse.

His powers aren't limited by science or logic or the natural order of things like Storm, and even she pushes the envelope from time to time.

The comics state this, numerous times at that.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so thor's 'magic' basically excuses what is otherwise PIS

you can have magic as a power, but it still has limits or defined boundaries.

Thor has limits and defined boundaries. 😬

Originally posted by Starscream M
so whats the limit of his weather powers. I don't remember his weather powers being ever brought up as a game-changer in other thor vs threads

Extremely high end based on his highest/best feats.

That's either untrue or because you, like others, seem to think that Thor will just use Mjolnir as a club and ignore his showings, which are plentiful, of him summoning storms and thunder.

I mean, c'mon, "dooder".

He's the God of Thunder. That title alone should clue you in on what constitutes his powers and abilities, let alone his actual on panel feats.

At the end of the day, his storms and weather powers have effected heralds and beyond. That much is indisputable and trying to do so is trolling at its finest.