Originally posted by OneDumbG0and do you notice the blood spurts as logan is slicing at thor?
The same reason Wolverine retracts his claws after having slashed Thor from the bottom left panel to the top right panel:No reason at all, I'd wager.
yet if he lands on thor's back with those claws and momentum, there isn't any blood spurt...that proves that he didnt have his claws out
Originally posted by Starscream M
and do you notice the blood spurts as logan is slicing at thor?yet if he lands on thor's back with those claws and momentum, there isn't any blood spurt...that proves that he didnt have his claws out
Pretty sure those are motion lines or what have you which are the same as the one:
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=wolvie_thor5.jpg
Originally posted by Starscream MI'd imagine that if there were blood spurts, they'd go downward from a downward slash to the back... and that would be obscured by Thor facing us. Stop forcing me to talk down to you as if you were in kindergarten.
and do you notice the blood spurts as logan is slicing at thor?yet if he lands on thor's back with those claws and momentum, there isn't any blood spurt...that proves that he didnt have his claws out
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If the Red Lantern ring gave Wolverine no extra abilities other than a force field powered by his rage and flight, those abilities coupled with his healing factor would still be more then enough to net a win the vast majority of the time.
Lmao.
What Red Lantern's force fields are enough to stop Thor?
Originally posted by -Pr-
None, but this is Srank.
Unfortunately.
It would be great if people actually knew about the amp in question they're saying gives Logan the overwhelming majority instead of making inane shit up. But yet and still we keep hearing about these great force fields I've not seen in action and the mysterious and vague increase in stats that no one wants to quantify, either.
You could give Logan a Green Lantern power ring and he'd still get his shit kicked in by Thor.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Red Lanterns have shields as in protective aura around their bodies like GLs.
That in of itself isn't nearly enough to justify Wolverine being protected from what Thor can dish out. The claim it will protect him from Thor's various and numerous energy powers and weather manipulation is asinine. And it's sure as hell not enough to repel Thor's most powerful physical blows. And it's up to his supporters to cite some kind of on panel evidence from actual Red Lantern power ring usage concerning these "stat amps" that suddenly make Wolverine go from being clearly out of his weight class against Thor to being able to get a massive majority against him.
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Hal's auto shields stopped a bullet from an ordinary hand gun, but he still felt the impact of the shot and it was enough to seriously rattle him for one example.
A GL, or really any Lantern's, best defense is an actual constructed shield or barrier of some kind, not their default auras. And Red Lanterns typically can't even make those kind of simple constructs due to, well, their rage overtaking them. And you're giving Logan this ring AND putting him in a beserker rage.
At absolute best, he'll fly around with the ring and spit fiery plasma, just like the vast majority of all Red Lanterns. He's not Atrocitus, Hal Jordan, or Guy the Great.
Originally posted by -Pr-
And to boot, Auto-shields don't exactly have the highest showings either.
Eh? John Stewarts auto shields protected Martian Manhunter and himself from an entire that was converted to anti matter and tossed into a sun.
Hal's auto protected him and Superman from a 500 something megaton explosion, that even early 90's Superman would have felt (A nuke did mess up this era's Supes pretty badly..)
An unnamed, mook GL's autos repelled Doomsday.
They have variable showings like anything, but definitely have their share of high end stuff.
Originally posted by cdtm
Eh? John Stewarts auto shields protected Martian Manhunter and himself from an entire that was converted to anti matter and tossed into a sun.Hal's auto protected him and Superman from a 500 something megaton explosion, that even early 90's Superman would have felt (A nuke did mess up this era's Supes pretty badly..)
An unnamed, mook GL's autos repelled Doomsday.
They have variable showings like anything, but definitely have their share of high end stuff.
Of course, but they have their share of the lower ones, and when you take out the named Lanterns, it starts to look very bad. Even if you don't, Jake's examples ring true.
I mean, sure, they can be good, but if they were really that good, GL's wouldn't need to make seperate shields, would they? I mean yeah, they do protect you reasonably well against bog standard people, but this is Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
👆Hal's auto shields stopped a bullet from an ordinary hand gun, but he still felt the impact of the shot and it was enough to seriously rattle him for one example.
Bullets just bounced off of Guys aura, in Reign of the Supermen. And was the only thing that kept Eradicator from taking his head off, and tank getting knocked across a city and through buildings.
The auras are why GL's can take attacks from Lobo or Black Adam and walk away bloody and bruised, instead of dead. If the Red Lantern rings have a comparable aura, that alone would make Logan much more formidable, since he can reasonably take class 100 punches now without PIS (And I do think it's PIS, or the Cap/Deadpool/Shang Chi/Mr. X/Anyone below Hulk fights would all be PIS themselves..)
Originally posted by cdtm
Bullets just bounced off of Guys aura, in Reign of the Supermen. And was the only thing that kept Eradicator from taking his head off, and tank getting knocked across a city and through buildings.The auras are why GL's can take attacks from Lobo or Black Adam and walk away bloody and bruised, instead of dead. If the Red Lantern rings have a comparable aura, that alone would make Logan much more formidable.
And they've also failed to stop far, far less without any issue. Case in point, they're variable as all hell and not nearly portrayed to be on a consistent level of formidability. Further more, auto-shields/auras <<<< manifested and conscious levels of defenses.
Secondly, if we start cherry picking and assigning any Lantern's feats as applicable to Red Lantern Wolverine, this debate becomes an ever bigger farce. There's no reason to assume Wolverine's durability becomes amped to a degree where he's able to easily shrug off blows from a non holding back Thor - though the deluded will argue he can anyway - let alone access the variety of abilities needed to put up a fight against Thor's vastly superior array of power and versatility as well as his ability to tag Logan with a Mjolnir toss far faster than what even Wolverine with flight would be capable of dodging.
Wasn't really arguing whether a Red Lantern aura can compare with a GL aura, only with the notion that a GL aura wouldn't be much of an advantage.
And Thor has his low end feats, too. If you want to stick with low GL showings in your argument (The part of your argument I was responding to), I'm not the one doing the cherry picking, since board policy is discarding really low end stuff... ^_^
Originally posted by cdtm
Wasn't really arguing whether a Red Lantern aura can compare with a GL aura, only with the notion that a GL aura wouldn't be much of an advantage.And Thor has his low end feats, too. If you want to stick with low GL showings in your argument, I'm not the one doing the cherry picking, since board policy is discarding really low end stuff... ^_^
A GL aura would be an advantage until Thor drained the energy from the power ring. Mjolnir > Manhunters, after all.
Oh, I'm aware that Thor has his low end feats; it seems to be what most people think is the norm when they want to argue him against someone with "superspeed".
Hal's auto shields having trouble with bullets is from the current era of the Johns' Corps so it's a valid point. Without conscious defenses of some sorts, street level and low meta characters can hurt a GL nowadays. And high herald characters can barrel right through them. They'll survive, but without an actual defense that they're actively putting effort into, it's going to knock them for a loop.
If I was exclusively citing high end Thor feats, this fight would be spite.
jake, logan could withstand thor's normal blows even without the aura....the aura just gives his hf a chance to kick in. logan has fought hulk, a being more powerful than thor, and held his ground. so its not like he's completely out of thor's class in terms of durability.
and if logan gets one swipe across thor's face, the god of thunder will be blind...what then? thats far more likely than thor beating logan with rain.
LOL, not even the best of GLs can get a majority from Thor and Logan is getting majority from him with a Red lantern ring,WTH. What is the best showing of a red lantern aside from Atrocitus, huh. As for force fields, I haven't seen a single type of energy Mjolnir couldn't absorb and with the ease lanterns can get their rings depleted these days Mjolnir is the last thing they would want to face. Count in Thor's mentality against energy based characters like surfer, Quasar and many more, he pretty much curbstomps Wolverine. One instance of him helpless against Logan doesn't means we would count out all of his speed showings. He is not superman level speedster but that doesn't mean Wolverine can overwhelm him with his speed. I rate that instance with the same as Superman not able to touch Shadowdragon, Diana stalemating Slade, Spidey dancing around surfer and Daredevil defeating Ultron with his Billy club i.e totally retarded. Thor is a god, he doesn't fight some canadian midget with claws and looks helpless with his speed. I mean come on, this is the same guy who when insane took entire Infinity watch, has shook entire worlds with his blows, deadlocked an extremely enraged Hulk for an hour and has a hammer that is the biggest plot device in comics sans magic and power cosmic and people are giving majority to a guy with claws and some ring which does noting but vomit plasma and a good for nothing force field. 🤨
