Originally posted by Trackz
Never understood why so many people tried to discredit hudlin, much of what of we wrote in in character for T'Challa and Wakanda...I mean T'Challa's first appearance had him taking on the whole Fantastic Four by himself. Priests run had him beating Ironman among other feats. I hate when people say Hudlin is racist because he writes T'Challa the same way other writers portray Captain America, Wolverine, Deadpool, and other top level characters.Also team wins.
Well that's not surprising.
Other writers don't tend to portray characters as X>>>>>AAALLLLL. Well maybe Cap sometimes but that's rare, typically related to patriotism, and usualy in spite of being at disadvantages to extreme degrees.
The way Hudlin wrote his characters came off as caricatures instead.
Storms more concerned with shopping than political/hero affairs? Really...?
Apocalypse uses terms like "Old School"?.... yeah.... that's what Apocalypse would say.
It's not just Hudlin's history, or the way he writes events in contrast with consistency and logic, it's that he's a hack on top of that who has no respect for the characters he IS writing for outside his own BET interpretations... It's insulting.
And those feats you're talking about have context backing them up. Unless of course you're really prepared to defend a position when BP can beat up Iron Man and the Fantastic Four... Yeah that makes sense.
You're right, Black Panther could SHOULD be able to one shot Cap with a gut check, Dr. Doom's totally a racist, and I'm sure Wakanda is more technologically advanced than the whole of latveria...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0srank already covered this. Not really impressed.
I believe you've already seen Cassie's multiple bullet dodging feats that indisputably happen after the bullet's been fired. This includes times where the bullet is only a few feet away and clearly on a path that would hit Cassie.
Originally posted by Trackz
Team puts down Logan. Hacks him until he's down. Blade could possibly KO wolverine the same way Deadpool managed to (Blade has been gutted/stabbed through before and healed just fine)
And no... Deadpool had.... dundundundun CONTEXT behind that scenario! Nice try though.
Originally posted by Trackz
He let deadpool win, but he was still KO'd from the bullet to the head, that's what i meant. Blade can pull that off, especially if he's got a teammate. Blade's taken all sorts of damage and remained conscious. Blasted miles by Lilith, nuclear facility explosion, being gutted by Hrolf, and stabbed by Dracula. It takes him longer to heal and it slows him but it doesn't necessarily slow him. We saw him take several gun shots to his legs and still out pace his opponents. Punisher shot him in the back and he was fine a couple of seconds later. If Blade falls asleep and lets Logan dice him up then that would definitely put Blade down but with Cassie on his side, they dance around taxing his healing factor until someone finally takes him out.
Sometimes, most of the time he tanks bullets to the head like he does planes and Hulk punches.
This is ridiculous, neither of these characters are going to be "dancing around" Wolverine. Blades already failed to land first blood on a Wolverine who aledgedly got back home from Omega Red... We've seen him fail miserably against Wolverine's speed. DEFINITELY not dancing around anyhing in this fight. While Cass has more of a likelyhood to try this, if bullet dodging's the best feat of speed she's got, then she's sorely out of luck against an opponent like Wolverine who is faster, stronger, and likely more agile.
And Blade's "healing" feats are less impressive than Cap's or Punisher's. Caps fought after taking a shotgun blast to the chest, Punisher went rounds with Daken after breaking his femur. I guess they have super healing too right? Well again.... Cap does but even then it's not the type of healing that's going to keep him in a fight against what Wolverine dishes out.
If you think Blades in ANY condition to take the punishment capible of "killing dozens of men" that Wolverine regularly dishes in fights with someone like Sabretooth, then you are sorely deluded.
Originally posted by jinzin
Well that's not surprising.Other writers don't tend to portray characters as X>>>>>AAALLLLL. Well maybe Cap sometimes but that's rare, typically related to patriotism, and usualy in spite of being at disadvantages to extreme degrees.
The way Hudlin wrote his characters came off as caricatures instead.
Storms more concerned with shopping than political/hero affairs? Really...?
Apocalypse uses terms like "Old School"?.... yeah.... that's what Apocalypse would say.It's not just Hudlin's history, or the way he writes events in contrast with consistency and logic, it's that he's a hack on top of that who has no respect for the characters he IS writing for outside his own BET interpretations... It's insulting.
And those feats you're talking about have context backing them up. Unless of course you're really prepared to defend a position when BP can beat up Iron Man and the Fantastic Four... Yeah that makes sense.
You're right, Black Panther could SHOULD be able to one shot Cap with a gut check, Dr. Doom's totally a racist, and I'm sure Wakanda is more technologically advanced than the whole of latveria...
the shopping instance was only during her wedding, no? after which she and t'challa went around the globe meeting with political leaders. she verbally whipped reed for his position in civil war.
I never denied their context, I'm just saying T'Challa has always been a legitimate threat to anyone, whether it be through his intelligence, technological prowess, or sheer physicality.
You're welcome to your own opinion though. It's fine if you don't like the writer, what occurred in that run is legitimate though.
Originally posted by jinzin
When was blade gutted or continued to fight after being run through?And no... Deadpool had.... dundundundun CONTEXT behind that scenario! Nice try though.
In his own series, Dracula stabbed him in the back with his sword. Blade pulled it out and was fine.
Originally posted by jinzin
Sometimes, most of the time he tanks bullets to the head like he does planes and Hulk punches.This is ridiculous, neither of these characters are going to be "dancing around" Wolverine. Blades already failed to land first blood on a Wolverine who aledgedly got back home from Omega Red... We've seen him fail miserably against Wolverine's speed. DEFINITELY not dancing around anyhing in this fight. While Cass has more of a likelyhood to try this, if bullet dodging's the best feat of speed she's got, then she's sorely out of luck against an opponent like Wolverine who is faster, stronger, and likely more agile.
And Blade's "healing" feats are less impressive than Cap's or Punisher's. Caps fought after taking a shotgun blast to the chest, Punisher went rounds with Daken after breaking his femur. I guess they have super healing too right? Well again.... Cap does but even then it's not the type of healing that's going to keep him in a fight against what Wolverine dishes out.
If you think Blades in ANY condition to take the punishment capible of "killing dozens of men" that Wolverine regularly dishes in fights with someone like Sabretooth, then you are sorely deluded.
depends on where they hit him.
he did land first blood. wolverine managed to claw and Blade's coat, then Blade landed the first strike that drew blood. I'm not getting into everyones interpretation of that Guggenheim fight again though.
Blade has stated super healing, it's been demonstrated. Not sure how many feats you want, he has less than 300 comics. I'm not addressing this "Blade isn't a real vampire" argument. It's asinine. Did I, or did I not state that if Blade let Wolverine go wild on him that the fight would be over fast?
Originally posted by TrackzI actually agree with this. Compared to guys like Logan and Deadpool Blade has 1/10th of the appearances. As far as I can tell there isn't any feats to contradict him not having a healing factor. That Hrolf scene you are talking about was a descent display of healing imo. His gut was slashed pretty badly iirc as he was downed and holding his gut. I also think there was artistic lines on his hand indicating he was shaking from the slash. Also in the Spitfire fight he was gashed pretty deep but by the time the fight was over his wounds were gone. Granted not Logan level healing but it's there.Blade has stated super healing, it's been demonstrated. Not sure how many feats you want, he has less than 300 comics.
Originally posted by Trackz
T'Challa wasn't portrayed as better than anyone really, but Hudlin did make a point to show that he is equal to characters of Steve's stature. I mean T'Challa beat a load of people but was also almost choked out by Doom.the shopping instance was only during her wedding, no? after which she and t'challa went around the globe meeting with political leaders. she verbally whipped reed for his position in civil war.
I never denied their context, I'm just saying T'Challa has always been a legitimate threat to anyone, whether it be through his intelligence, technological prowess, or sheer physicality.
You're welcome to your own opinion though. It's fine if you don't like the writer, what occurred in that run is legitimate though.
Knocking out CAPTAIN THE F*** AMERICA with a single gut punch.... IS BETTER. He FLAT OUT STATED Wakanda was better than Latveria. This isn't up to interpretation. His writing is so wildly bias it undercuts his credibility with his use of the character. It's that simple. And no, the several uncharictaristics incidents I described (And the were plenty more) are NOT legitimate when they are legitimately discredited or in contrast to the consistency of the rest of Marvel Canon.