The Dark Knight Rises

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Uh-oh, Janus' man-crush on me is beginning to take over his psyche.

Fight it, Janus! Fight it!

... or don't. 313

Godayum, I just saw this shit......

Spoiler:
Freakin' loved it. It did what movies are supposed to do, entertain the shit out of me. I'm not as jaded as some of my bro-chums who nitpicked the entire goddamn movie about the stupidest shit ever. This movie had it's faults, though they rarely bother me. Bruce was in that prison, he climbed to his freedom, how the f*ck did he get to Gotham so goddamn fast when the bomb was just like around 2 days from exploding? B*tch, please. Shit happens in movies. If you're having a hard time swallowing that, then most comic book movies are gonna have some beef with yo ass. BB was an amazing origins movie, I loved it, and it ties with this movie as number two, I'm a huge Joker fan, so that barely pushes TDK to the first spot for me.

Some things I disliked about the movie:

Bane, pretty goddamn intimidating, but imo he went down like a chuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmppppppppppp. Really, when all that shit was going down, seemed like Bane was quite the master planner, once the development of Talia being behind everything was revealed, sorta made me question if Bane had even planned anything at all. Not sure if I missed a part where they stated it was him all the way. Regardless though, Catwoman side-killin' him like that seemed pretty unfitting for the most part. Wanted bats to whup his ass some more, just seemed like he got dealt with pretty fast.

Catwoman, she was pretty baws, just not a big fan of Anne Hatheway. I'm also glad this Batman was different than his comic counterpart, cuz comic Batman would've 'OMFGWTFBBQwithsauceB*TCH-ON-FIRE'ed if he'd seen her kill anyone in front him like she did in this film.

Something that struck me as kinda odd, hahaha, Batman's fantasy Ras Al Ghul told him that Bane was his kid, hahaha, dude took it into consideration as a fact. I sat there going: Hmmm, I should do that more often, just have a misdirected fantasy of my boss parking her booty in my office and tell me I'm getting a raise and 15 vacation days a month. Won't make it true, but it kinda worked out for Batman.

Dat Dayo-Day-oh-oh-oh-daytyme! I know crime (revolution?) doesn't wait for the sun to go down, but man, how hard did peeps try not to laugh when Bats showed up during the day? Should've been a mostly night-time movie, but meh, what can ya do?

The fights, might as well spell out YMCA. Anyone notice the fight scenes coming off as appearing alittle too choreographed? It was like, kay guys, point guns at victims and threaten to shoot. Oh shi-! Batman's here. Everyone utilize these guns we're holding as blunt objects, no one shoot at him! MARTY, I SAW THAT! You let a round pop off, we can't afford mistakes like that, now everyone take him on at once. Even though we have a moment to dedicate a kill-shot, let's not take that chance this time.

Finally, JGL's character toward the end. His real name is Robin? Teehee. Were the names Richard or Dick busy? Seemed like it had to be spelled out to the audience. Us Nerdlingers would've been giddy at that reference, while common folk would've been: "Kay, I guess that's his real name."

Stuffies I liked:

Catwoman was useful! Not as useless as Black Widow who seemed forced to me.

Dear Satan, that Bats vs Bane fight early on, that shit was the hoe's knees! Lasted a good while and left you satisfied.

The ending. Freakin' loved that Robin (HeeTee) discovered the cave. Shit made it seem like he passed the mantle not cuz he f*ckin' left to make batkittens with Selina, but to make Batman a legend and shit.

Gordon, that dude played too rough, he got shit done. For the most,(since i've kept myself spoiler free) I thought he was gonna die at the hospital or Robin (Heehee) was gonna save his geriatric ass.

Gotham turning into pretty much a MGS Outer Haven, least that's what I thought.

Pretty awesome overall.

This Bat trilogy by Chris Nolan is one of the best trilogies that I have ever seen.. WB did a really good job when they casted Christian Bale who IMO is the best Bruce Wayne/Batman.

IMO, I would rate the villains

Joker
Ra's
Bane
Scarecrow
Talia

Tom Hardy took gave a great performance as Bane whose voice I clearly heard.. also Hardy as Bane is so much damn better than steroid grunt Bane..

I hate the fact that WB will reboot this as early as next year which is a huge mistake so I will secretly wish for the reboot to fail 😂

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I hate the fact that WB will reboot this as early as next year which is a huge mistake so I will secretly wish for the reboot to fail 😂

They need a Batman they can then use in a Justice League film(s).

I don't really feel like it's a real re-boot. The Nolan verse exists in the realm of more realistic while the new batman will be more comic book related.

I want it done right with little focus on his origin.

I've been thinking about it and I'd use the Justice League movie as the jumping off point for Batman rather than create a new origin movie before hand.

Originally posted by ares834
I've been thinking about it and I'd use the Justice League movie as the jumping off point for Batman rather than create a new origin movie before hand.

Not when the Batman name is making hundreds of millions, they're not wasting an opportunity to have another Batman film and then tie it into a JL film.

They're going to follow the Marvel character's film plan, cos it works.

Perhaps, the problem is the inevitable backlash. By introducing Batman in the JL movie they will prevent him from being under too much scrutiny for his first appearance and then go on to make Batman movies. However, you are likely right in that the studio will do it the way Marvel would do it, but as I stated in my post that's the way "I" would do it.

Originally posted by Robtard
They need a Batman they can then use in a Justice League film(s).

They have one in Nolanverse especially with a tweak here and there..

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I don't really feel like it's a real re-boot. The Nolan verse exists in the realm of more realistic while the new batman will be more comic book related.

I want it done right with little focus on his origin.

if rumors are to be believed the reboot will be his second year.. also they better not go back to the "george clooney batman" as we all know how that went

well lets hope WB/DC will be doing it the Marvel way.. it has been rumored that Man of Steel starts everything off so I hope something good will be in there

BTW, Rob what did you think of the first teaser for the Man of Steel?

Originally posted by Robtard
Not when the Batman name is making hundreds of millions, they're not wasting an opportunity to have another Batman film and then tie it into a JL film.

They're going to follow the Marvel character's film plan, cos it works.

Nolan's version is set too deep in a "realistic" world where the likes of super-powers, aliens and magic doesn't exist. This Batman is a billionaire trained as a ninja who uses experimental combat gear someone else invented.

IMO, even with a different actor, this Batman would not fit well in a world filled with super-powered heroes and villains.

Edit: I liked the Man of Steel teaser; looking forward to the film thus far. Bit confusing why Clark's hanging out in New England being a crab fisherman though.

Did you see the comicon trailer for Man of Steel? It's so much better.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
They have one in Nolanverse especially with a tweak here and there..

if rumors are to be believed the reboot will be his second year.. also they better not go back to the "george clooney batman" as we all know how that went

well lets hope WB/DC will be doing it the Marvel way.. it has been rumored that Man of Steel starts everything off so I hope something good will be in there

BTW, Rob what did you think of the first teaser for the Man of Steel?

I couldn't agree with you anymore! I don't want that crappy "cartoon" batman but I don't want something that is totally "real". I want them to find a balance. I want a dark batman like in nolans films but I want him to have gadgets that could never possibly be real yet explained as if they are real. The same with his fighting ability's. I guess I could say I want it darker toned like the nolan verse but more comic book correct.

is it heresy if I said this was my least favorite of the (nolan) batman movies?

There was a point about 2 hours and 20 minutes in when I realized I was watching a superhero fly around a city being chased by missiles while trying to stop a ticking time bomb that looks like a blown up version of the interrogation droid from star wars. It was at the point that I realized I was watching just another comic movie like the dozens that came before it. It just happened to have better cinematography. Other cliches include the rookie idealist cop, the femme fatale, the workout montage in prison, the third-times-a-charm climbing out of the pit, and someone literally gets stabbed in the back.

There are some good moments. Anne Hathaway is excellent, the production values are good, it has a good scope to it, the cast is way better than they need to be given the material. The first fist fight between Bane and Batman has nice tactile quality about it.

I think Joseph Gordon-Levitt said it's possible to make a bad movie out of a good script but you can't make a good movie out of a bad script. I think that is the case here. Everything about the movie is top notch, except the writing, which is everything.

sorry i had to get that out...don't hate me

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I couldn't agree with you anymore! I don't want that crappy "cartoon" batman but I don't want something that is totally "real". I want them to find a balance. I want a dark batman like in nolans films but I want him to have gadgets that could never possibly be real yet explained as if they are real. The same with his fighting ability's. I guess I could say I want it darker toned like the nolan verse but more comic book correct.

SPeaking of gadgets, whats up with the lack of gadgets in theses last few batman movies. All batman did was slow fist fighting scenes.. i liked the movie but didnt really care for the fight scenes.

Originally posted by Rapscallion
is it heresy if I said this was my least favorite of the (nolan) batman movies?

There was a point about 2 hours and 20 minutes in when I realized I was watching a superhero fly around a city being chased by missiles while trying to stop a ticking time bomb that looks like a blown up version of the interrogation droid from star wars. It was at the point that I realized I was watching just another comic movie like the dozens that came before it. It just happened to have better cinematography. Other cliches include the rookie idealist cop, the femme fatale, the workout montage in prison, the third-times-a-charm climbing out of the pit, and someone literally gets stabbed in the back.

There are some good moments. Anne Hathaway is excellent, the production values are good, it has a good scope to it, the cast is way better than they need to be given the material. The first fist fight between Bane and Batman has nice tactile quality about it.

I think Joseph Gordon-Levitt said it's possible to make a bad movie out of a good script but you can't make a good movie out of a bad script. I think that is the case here. Everything about the movie is top notch, except the writing, which is everything.

sorry i had to get that out...don't hate me

This could use some spoiler tags here and there, I think.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nolan's version is set too deep in a "realistic" world where the likes of super-powers, aliens and magic doesn't exist. This Batman is a billionaire trained as a ninja who uses experimental combat gear someone else invented.

IMO, even with a different actor, this Batman would not fit well in a world filled with super-powered heroes and villains.

Edit: I liked the Man of Steel teaser; looking forward to the film thus far. Bit confusing why Clark's hanging out in New England being a crab fisherman though.

Rob you might be right but i will wait and see

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I couldn't agree with you anymore! I don't want that crappy "cartoon" batman but I don't want something that is totally "real". I want them to find a balance. I want a dark batman like in nolans films but I want him to have gadgets that could never possibly be real yet explained as if they are real. The same with his fighting ability's. I guess I could say I want it darker toned like the nolan verse but more comic book correct.

whatever they come up with they will be hardpressed because of the success Nolan had

Originally posted by Robtard
Bit confusing why Clark's hanging out in New England being a crab fisherman though.
What else would he be doing?

😐

Originally posted by Scythe
This could use some spoiler tags here and there, I think.

Lol, yeah, I read most of it. But I don't care too much, so whatever..

Originally posted by Rapscallion
There are some good moments. Anne Hathaway shows her T & A...

^^ What I wish he had said.

Originally posted by Mindset
What else would he be doing?

😐

Shucking corn, fool was raised in Kansas.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I don't want that crappy "cartoon" batman but I don't want something that is totally "real". I want them to find a balance. I want a dark batman like in nolans films but I want him to have gadgets that could never possibly be real yet explained as if they are real. The same with his fighting ability's. I guess I could say I want it darker toned like the nolan verse but more comic book correct.

With Begins, I thought Nolan was the ideal director to handle Batman.
He created a gritty Gotham city & then made it believable that a Dark Knight preyed in the shadows...that evil was needed to take evil down.

Then sadly with TDK & TDKR...Nolan ventured away from Batman & his mythos...he focussed more on Tales Of Gotham & told us about the plight of the citizens, their politics, their hard luck stories...Batman became a 2 dimensional character & a sub-plot in Nolan's grand story telling....

...sigh. Enough of my tirade.