Avengers vs. X-Men - 2012 Marvel Event

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Fraction can and has written a great Iron Man, though.

His Ironman series pisses me off. Can be read as trades but not single issues.

He needs to up his ante on flair. I miss old school Ironman and this AvX fight showed me that love.

I thought this was supposed to be the Age of Heroes. Not Tony's decline into crap due to his rogues gallery getting upgrades and having a drink, not swearing with dwarves and making miracle weapons. Heck I expected more from Tony for having a drink. But Fraction needs a break from Ironman hell they are even thinking of putting the guy into retirement!!!!!!or a hiatus.

Either way the fight between Tony and Erik was the best thing that happened to Tony in a long time.

The Namor/Thing fight was disappointing to me. I expected Namor to

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win

Thing is destined to be a raw elder of the human race. Strength just below a hulk but the life experience of a street smart wiseguy.

Originally posted by Bentley
Not that it matters. Limiting showings actually helps Namor.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
The Namor/Thing fight was disappointing to me. I expected Namor to

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win

it. Specially with the fight being under water for the most part. Is not looking good for the X-men.

Well, you need to read more on the awesome Ben Grimm then 😉

Ugh. The Thing vs Namor fight smells like those vote-in Marvel vs DC matches.

Side note: Did Namor

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knock himself out when he swung that giant fish around?

It seemed like Ben got smacked with it, then ripped of its teeth and walked up to a laid-out Sub-Mariner.

😬 Rulk vs Colossus another let down.The fights r fine but the finishers just plain suck a$$!

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I like how Cyke shook off a cheapshot shield throw... because that makes sense.

* anyone finds the "AvX fun fact" trivia annoying? 😛

* a Cyke fan here, although we know that writers won't let Cyke win against Cap, this should happen ---

Originally posted by peejayd
* anyone finds the "AvX fun fact" trivia annoying? 😛

* a Cyke fan here, although we know that writers won't let Cyke win against Cap, this should happen ---

Originally posted by the ninjak
The Mags/Ironman fight was awesome. People downsize too much around here.

Both showed the kind of feats I expected from a forum fight!

Has Mags been 'depowered'?

Originally posted by Deadline
Has Mags been 'depowered'?

Not at all. The finish was just cheap.

* my thoughts on AvX... it was really out-of-character for Cap to ask advice for Wolverine first, then execute a poor immediate decision on Cyclops to just take Hope for custody... Scott was Jean's husband and the couple (Scott and Jean) knows the Phoenix more than anyone else... while the usually idiotic Logan --- who split the X-men up because he wants the "children" to be safe --- now wants to kill Hope...

* it's not because i'm a Cyclops fan here, but... c'mon... in this scenario, both Cap and Logan are wackos and Cyclops, as always, (even how ridicuous his plans were) ends up being right (see the end of Schism)...

The fight with Thing was very circumstantial, But the fight with Ironman was extreme prep.

Originally posted by peejayd
* my thoughts on AvX... it was really out-of-character for Cap to ask advice for Wolverine first,

More Wolverine stroking.

Not really.

^ might be right, depends on context.

Originally posted by Cogito
Fun fact: That tower, if made of concrete as it appears to be, would weigh far more than 170 tons

(scans courtesy of Guy)

looked like steel and concrete. that tower sure as hell weighed more than 170 tons.

like i said, shit like these just shows how stupidly ignorant these writers are.

Comics need more science advisors

Reinforced concrete is roughly 150lbs per cubic foot, which means is weighs around 4,000lbs per cubic yard (assuming it is composed of standard concrete/rebar.) So the tower would have to be about 90 cubic yards of concrete to put its weight around 170 tons.

...And just for the lulz, one cubic yard of concrete will cover 54 sq ft, 6 inches deep--and 81 sq ft, 4 inches deep.

Wow the writing for this series is awful. Seriously it almost seems like someone is controlling Captain America as he is so out of character