Avengers vs. X-Men - 2012 Marvel Event

Wow, the X-Men are doing terrible in these fights, but got some wins...I guess

Spoiler:
Captain America beats Gambit
Captain America beats Warpath
Namor beats Cage (competitive fight)
Namor and Thing stalemate
Colossnaut "beats" Spider-Man (he just leaves when he finds out Hope isnt there)
Thing beats Sunspot
She Hulk beats Hepzibah

Hell Magik and X-Man working together couldn't take down Giant Man

I believe this is the complete list of fights we have seen thus far

Spoiler:

Avenger wins:
Captain America beats Cyclops
Captain America beats Gambit
Captain America beats Warpath
Iron Man beats Magneto
Rulk beats Colosanut
She Hulk beats Hepzibah
Thing beats Namor
Thing beats Sunspot

X-Men Wins:
Colossnaut beats Spider-Man
Dr.Nemesis beats Quicksilver
Hope beats Wolverine
Magik beats Dr.Strange
Namor beats Cage

Stalemates:
Captain America vs. Wolverine
Namor vs. Thing

Did I miss anything?

Id put that rvc win in quotation marks

Can someone provide a list of which fights appeared in which issues? I went on vacation and I'm weeks behind...

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Id put that rvc win in quotation marks

rvc?

Originally posted by -K-M-
rvc?

There is only one character there whose name starts with r

Oh Rulk vs. Colossus, I didn't even know you were refering to specific characters thought an issue number.

Originally posted by Cogito
Can someone provide a list of which fights appeared in which issues? I went on vacation and I'm weeks behind...

Spoiler:

Avenger wins:
Captain America beats Cyclops (AvX #2)
Captain America beats Gambit (AvX Versus #2 & AvX #4)
Captain America beats Warpath (AvX #4)
Iron Man beats Magneto (AvX Versus #1)
Rulk beats Colossnaut (Uncanny X-Men #11 & AvX #2)
She Hulk beats Hepzibah (Uncanny X-Men #12)
Thing beats Namor (AvX Versus #1)
Thing beats Sunspot (Uncanny X-Men #12)

X-Men Wins:
Colossnaut beats Spider-Man (AvX Versus #2)
Dr.Nemesis beats Quicksilver (AvX #2)
Hope beats Wolverine (AvX #2)
Magik beats Dr.Strange (AvX #2-3)
Namor beats Cage (Uncanny X-Men #12)

Stalemates:
Captain America vs. Wolverine (AvX #3)
Namor vs. Thing (Uncanny X-Men #12)

Thanks 👆

These arent all the fights, but the ones that were one on one and had an actual finish.

Well, when the tides change and the X-Men start winning, those issues will be drawn by Olivier Coipel and later Kubert... which is worth the wait considering JRJR is one on the book right now.

Is it me or has Thor shown some impressive durability feats the last few issues?

Anyone read the recent Avenger Acemdy? Do you think this will be a major tie in with the event?

minor mention:

Hercules depowered lost horribly to Shaw (PIS). Shaw mention if he was powered, Herc would of been his league. Personally I doubt it. I recall Namor taking a redirected hit from Shaw and kept coming like it was nothing. powered Herc = Namor

Can Shaw really absorb electricity?

He can now, he can also absorb magic. It's a retcon to make him more like the movies where he basically could absorb anything.

Pretty much.

Shaw didn't need these upgrades--he's always been a powerhouse without them. Imo, if Marvel was going to upgrade him, they should've simply expanded more on his absorption of [physical] kinetic energy... They could have done a LOT with just that.

I just hope they don't turn him into Rulk Jr. ermm

I'm up to Round 4, When did everyone go to Wakanda, Latveria and Savage Land?

sounds like i have to get one of the other books to keep up.....its Secret Invasion all over again.

It's been incredibly mediocre and at times even bad. Marvel is all about cheap cash in's because they know that 90% of the Marvel fanbase consist of morons who will buy anything with flashy pictures that simulate a Michael Bay movie. The Marvel fanbase is too stupid to realize they're getting ripped off buy paying 4-5 bucks for mediocre books, so Marvel is taking advantage of it.

Originally posted by remender
It's been incredibly mediocre and at times even bad. Marvel is all about cheap cash in's because they know that 90% of the Marvel fanbase consist of morons who will buy anything with flashy pictures that simulate a Michael Bay movie. The Marvel fanbase is too stupid to realize they're getting ripped off buy paying 4-5 bucks for mediocre books, so Marvel is taking advantage of it.

Dude, stop hating on Quan.

* there has been an issue on "who threw the first punch" to jumpstart the Avengers - X-men war... physically, Cyclops did... but technically, it was Captain America... he did not wish to talk or to negotiate diplomatically, but he just goes to Utopia and demanded (not ask) their leader to hand him his "messiah" grandchild, and that is not the way to talk to someone you claimed to respect... Cap won't just take no for an answer and Cyke unleashing an optic blast is out of the issue... whether Cyke threw a punch or not, if he declined Cap's proposal/demand, Cap will unleash hell on Utopia by unloading the Avengers in the cloaked Helicarrier... it was confirmed by Emma that Cap won't leave without Hope... as i have read in other forums, Cyke blasting Cap telling him to get off his island can be paralleled to Leonidas kicking a Persian messenger to a large pit saying "this is Sparta!", which is so d@mn cool... this is Utopia, Cap!

* next, taking Hope in protective custody? Cap obviously does not know what he's thinking or doing... how in the blue hell can he (or the Avengers) protect Hope from the cosmic entity Phoenix? and what is the difference of Hope staying in an isolated island of Utopia compared to Avengers' headquarters or Stark Tower surrounded by thousands of innocent people? considering that both teams (esp. Cap and Cyke) "talk" periodically, why didn't Cap just went to talk to Cyke about the matter and find a better solution rather than forcing Cyke to hand Hope to them? the problem was --- Cap asked for the advice of just one equally stupid and stubborn man like him --- Wolverine... Logan foretold Cap that Cyke won't have it his (Cap's) way, so Cap's ego says, "oh yeah? we'll see about that"... Steve Rogers and the Avengers are not the law... and they need to keep their egos in check... and i also find it hypocritical for Cap by interfering - remember the crime of Scarlet Witch? eventhough Wanda's a mutant, Cap does not want the X-men to interfere because it was an "Avengers problem", fine! now Cap wants to interfere in an "X-men problem"? that's hypocritical... everybody knows that Phoenix was always an "X-men problem" and has an "X-men solution"... in Uncanny X-men #9-10, it shows that Cap reiterated the difference of priorities of Avengers and X-men, but Cap does not know everything... he does not even know that eventhough Cyke pulled his team out of action, it was because there was a crisis in another place... two crises, in the end, was saved because of it, but Cap does not budge, judgmentally saying that the X-men prioritize mutant problems over anything else --- of course! they ARE mutants! but they still save and protect those who hated them and that makes them heroes! Cap is really getting in my nerves...

* next, i have heard in other forums that Cyclops is lunatic for wanting to harness or control the PF (Phoenix Force) and for believing that it can save the mutant population... for a non-mutant, yeah it's ridiculous... but if you have read past issues of X-men comics, Cable entrusted Cyke with Hope knowing full well that Hope is really the Mutant Messiah --- still doubting? Cable's a time-traveller for goodness' sake! he already witnessed the destruction of Earth without Hope! and that's a pretty solid proof for Cyclops to believe in Cable - not to mention why would his own son lie to him? no one can control the PF? ahem, Jean Grey, Scott's dead wife once did it... not convinced? anyone cared to ask another Phoenix avatar for confirmation? who? Rachel Grey-Summers! she confirmed (Wolverine and the X-men #10) that PF can be controlled, and that's the reason why she was secretly helping Scott against the Avengers... Scott's ex-wife, son and daughter... there's no reason to doubt Cyclops' judgment and sanity in my opinion...

* and Wolverine, you freakin' idiot... the only thing you can ever think of is killing Hope? wow, you split the X-men in two because you don't want children to fight and kill, yet you yourself wanted to kill Hope? and you reformed the X-force without Cyke's knowledge, which Cyke himself created and disbanded? Wolverine and Cap are the greatest hypocrites and have the biggest egos in comics today...

* so much for my rant... 🙂

Originally posted by peejayd

* and Wolverine, you freakin' idiot... the only thing you can ever think of is killing Hope? wow, you split the X-men in two because you don't want children to fight and kill, yet you yourself wanted to kill Hope? and you reformed the X-force without Cyke's knowledge, which Cyke himself created and disbanded? Wolverine and Cap are the greatest hypocrites and have the biggest egos in comics today...

At least with Hope she's okay with Wolverine killing her, if all else fails not being able to control the Phoenix.