Superman vs Thor: EXTREME RAGE EDITION

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Great, spam. You posted those scans already. Posting them repeatedly isn't changing that almost everything you tried to assert in your initial post was wrong, e.g., Quicksilver vs. Exodus, disbelief that other speedsters can vibrate intangible, Flash/Zoom can't travel lightyears in minutes, Superman rivaling Zoom in superspeed, Galan007 agreeing with that silly notion, Superman seeing Barry at his top speeds, etc.

Your repetitious scans are unextraordinary and have nothing to do with what you were trying to force earlier. Stop moving the goalposts because you're butthurt that you were literally wrong on almost everything you argued about. You inserted your own foot into your mouth. Don't resent me for your own folly.

And stop pretending like you don't know how to use thumbnails or links. So annoying. I'm confident that you're a sock of a troll. What? You supposedly just registered with KMC in 2011 and you expected me to miss your blatant allusion to a KMC debate from 2005? Either way, I know for a fact that you're a troll, here and now. In the end, there's no distinction worth noting.

So nothing to say, huh. No thor digging trenches, no "whirling mjolnir to bazillion times of lightspeed", no tp bolt deflection, nothing. I may be wrong on all accounts, why don't you show me what's right. Don't be a hypocrite, I've seen your spamming in many threads. At least I'm providing proofs whatever I claim, where is your "zomg thor's lightspeed reflexes pwnz" scan. What, you can't find one scan of thor's "godlike reflexes" in his 45+ years publication history, shame. Go prove how phoenix loses to onslaught or how Ganthet's more powerful than spectre.

Oh that discussion, I know of a secret you don't, kmc's search function actually works and I first checks on a poster's profile and history before debating with him. Have fun thinking I'm a troll, btw in previous weeks Bada banned a lot of socks many in the same thread I posted. If I was a sock, he would've banned me already. Go ahead report me for a sock, but don't run away from a debate calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a troll, ok.

^ Just because you demand that I list feats to deflect from all the rebuttals of your initial arguments doesn't mean I'm your scans/feats provider. And I don't spam oversized pictures that have nothing to do with what I was just arguing.

Like I said, a troll is a troll. And, oh yeah. I'm sure you searched for 6 year old arguments. That makes perfect sense. You can only see the last 200 posts I made by looking at my profile. Outside of your recent gaff in this thread, you've mentioned "ganthet" only once ever since you "registered" in 2011. Now all of a sudden, I'm to believe that before ever engaging me in a discussion, you checked my profile that goes back 200 posts to December 2011 and found 6 year old arguments from 2005 about a character, "ganthet," who you've obviously been so interested in that you've literally typed "ganthet" only once in your entire KMC tenure? Awesome.

Amazing deflection. Get over the butthurt, learn to use thumbnails and links and remember to keep up your facade of a completely new KMC poster that doesn't troll. Seriously, phuck off.

^I found it in your thread history Mr. Onesmartgo

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=642591.

Btw Learn how to properly debate first, ok. Your spamming and trolling is astounding to say at the least.

This is superman vs thor, you said thor has lightspeed reflexes and I demanded scans. What the heck am I supposed to do otherwise, just accept it because you type a long ass post. I countered every point you made and yet you are trolling without any proof whatsoever. They are my scans, from my account, using my bandwidth and I can use them anyway I want, nobody has any problems with that yet so what the hell is your problem? Anyway concession accepted. Go bother someone else.

No need to bash guys. Keep it civil.. And give each other a few smiley faces 🙂

^ You tell me darth, have I ever lowballed Thor? I give him an even split with Kal in standard matches. I always give scans of whatever I claim and accepted mistake whenever I was proven wrong or if I can't prove it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You keep talking about Thor not being able to block a light speed attack from 5 ft away. They don't start from 5 ft away. So shut up about it because you're ignoring the forum rule that by default, they start .5 km away. Thor was not 30 ft or more away from Gladiator when he dodged his heat vision and, in the very next panel, twirled Mjolnir to deflect a followup barrage of his heat vision. Seriously, so shut up about it because you're ignoring Thor's feats.

Asking you to read the comics is pointless. Somehow, it would insult the comics.

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman dodged heat vision that was aimed at his back, while he was doing investigative work. 😄 Batman reaction speed>>>>

this is unbelievable seriously, superman has so many crazy feats of not only beating up and blitzing actual speedsters that can not only travel but move at the speed of light that its amazing, superman also got actual feat of going so fast he was intangible, but the thing is here on KMC superman is so hated that he has to be compromised and his top feats are not canon.

thor on the other hand going over 45+ years of comics has almost 0 feats of fighting at light speed,the majority of his fights is him getting blitzed by either gladiator, or wolverine, or spider-man (masterson), in 45+ years of career he got a feat of SURPRISING hermes and grabbing him by his anckle, by the way i think thor has foot fetish or something grabbing everybody by there foot but thats a whole different story.

my point is that people over here being hard thor fans are forcing everybody to lowball superman who has many great feats in order to make him a match for there featless thor, even strength feats what are thor lifting feats? he failed to lift the misgard serpent TWICE, what are his strength and lifting feats? lifting a tank? compared to superman thor is simply featless, but here on KMC thor its a whole different story, people reject superman going intagible , people reject superman being faster than speedsters, people reject superman lifting infinity when needed, but thor using some godblast attack is cool right? thats something people always use as a card for thor, or that crap "mjolnir will just absorb the energy", yeah mjolnir sure did so against the U FOES.

anyway abhilegend simply anihilated all the thor fans and theres nothing they can do about that because thor doesnt have the feats, so the thor fans choose there well known tactic of "bring hermes feat" and then "write scrolls of insults and smilies saying the superman supporter needs to go and read some marvel comics".

basically we all know that if thor had even half of the feats superman has he would be a solid TRANS tier here on KMC boasted by all his hardcore fans around here.

yeah that sure is a great debating.

Lmao.

Fact of the matter is that Superman's speed is an edge against Thor, and in a typical fight, it could be portrayed as something substantial to something that's a clear advantage. Conversely, Thor's ability to attack in multiple directions, home in a single target, superior power output, and versatility help reduce that advantage by a significant degree to the point that Superman can't beat Thor in seconds or even minutes.

Anyone who seriously thinks that is, to be frank, an idiot. ermm

Anyone who seriously thinks that Thor obliterates Superman with a Godblast within moments is, to be frank, an idiot. ermm

This thread has devolved into a bunch of nonsense.

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^You talking to a sock jake, anyone who thinks that this is a stomp is an idiot. But deep down you know it Jake that kal wins.superdur>>>durthor

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman can't beat Thor in seconds or even minutes.

Anyone who seriously thinks that is, to be frank, an idiot. ermm

Anyone who seriously thinks that Thor obliterates Superman with a Godblast within moments is, to be frank, an idiot. ermm

Well to be fair either of the above 2 are possible if one of them decides to go completely all out before the other.

But yeah pretty unlikely. And certainly wouldn't happen in a comic that way.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But deep down you know it Jake that kal wins.superdur>>>durthor

Come on abhilegend, you know deep down Supes would'nt survive a God Blast 😛

^ Who said thor can do it while superman is using almighty combo-to-ko on him?ha-som

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, stop bashing.

h1a8, this "combo to ko" thing has honestly got to stop. it doesn't follow the spirit of the forum, and is an arbitrary, unrealistic theory applied to fights that are never going to go that way.

A bullrush is a common tactic used by Superman (even when calm), and is most likely his first avenue of attack given how ragey he is in this fight, imo.

Combo to ko happen many many times in comics (and in real life too). I could post many examples, even with scans. For example, Thor did it many times (to Glads at that), DD did it several times, Thanos did it, Hulk did it, Superman did it, Batman did it, etc. Having speed even makes it work even better.

What's unrealistic is a bloodlusted character hits and then waits for his opponent to recover and allow them to hit them back, etc. This isn't how bloodlusted characters fight. I could understand if this fight was a normal one where neither character is bloodlusted.

If Superman is bloodlusted (as thread thread suggests) then he will wail on Thor hard enough and won't relent until Thor is koed.

^^For the love of god and my brain cells, just stop.

Originally posted by h1a8
Realistic? It is both realistic and fictional.

Combo to ko happen many many times in comics (and in real life too). I could post many examples, even with scans. For example, Thor did it many times (to Glads at that), DD did it several times, Thanos did it, Hulk did it, Superman did it, Batman did it, etc. Having speed even makes it work even better.

What's unrealistic is a bloodlusted character hits and then waits for his opponent to recover and allow them to hit them back, etc. This isn't how bloodlusted characters fight. I could understand if this fight was a normal one where neither character is bloodlusted.

If Superman is bloodlusted (as thread thread suggests) then he will wail on Thor hard enough and won't relent until Thor is koed.

It's the exception, not the rule. And it's not practical given the histories of 99% of the characters on this forum. And what about Thor? He's just going to sit there and let Superman wail on him?

Of course not, and Superman isn't too fast for Thor either, so the point is moot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^You talking to a sock jake

said the sock who brought up an argument from 2005 and blew up his cover as a sock of some senior member, the reason you didnt get banned socky boy is because the mods saw you are a sock account of someone who they know so they let it slide , so please dont be a double standard biatch

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's the exception, not the rule. And it's not practical given the histories of 99% of the characters on this forum. And what about Thor? He's just going to sit there and let Superman wail on him?

Of course not, and Superman isn't too fast for Thor either, so the point is moot.

If Thor gets hit by a rocking non holding back Superman punch then he would have no choice but to sit there and let Superman wail on him. If Thor is rocked from the first blow (as he will be), how is he going to respond if Superman hits him with another rocking blow before he recovers? Superman is too fast for Thor. That is the point of the debate. Thor only shown that he can respond to beam attacks from 30 or so feet away. But many other characters who we all know for certain can't move light speed (like wolverine, batman, CA, etc.) has been shown to be able to do the same. And plus responding to a beam is not the same as multiple punches (with HV) from 5ft away as comics consistently show.

If Superman bull rushes and sees Thor raises his hammer in front then Superman is not going to run into the hammer like a dumb bullet. He simply is going to maneuver in a position where Thor is open for attack. This occurs less around 5ft of Thor (and not battle distance).

Now it can go the other way too. Thor can land a powerful strike on Superman and finish him off if he doesn't relent. Bloodlusted characters don't relent. Normal characters do.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters are not bloodlusted 99% of the time in comics. When someone is PISSED in comics and they wail on another then they usually tend to not stop until the other character is koed.

If Thor gets hit by a rocking non holding back Superman punch then he would have no choice but to sit there and let Superman wail on him. If Thor is rocked from the first blow (as he will be), how is he going to respond if Superman hits him with another rocking blow before he recovers? Superman is too fast for Thor. That is the point of the debate. Thor only shown that he can respond to beam attacks from 30 or so feet away. But many other characters who we all know for certain can't move light speed (like wolverine, batman, CA, etc.) has been shown to be able to do the same. And plus responding to a beam is not the same as multiple punches (with HV) from 5ft away as comics consistently show.

If Superman bull rushes and sees Thor raises his hammer in front then Superman is not going to run into the hammer like a dumb bullet. He simply is going to maneuver in a position where Thor is open for attack. This occurs less around 5ft of Thor (and not battle distance).

Now it can go the other way too. Thor can land a powerful strike on Superman and finish him off if he doesn't relent. Bloodlusted characters don't relent. Normal characters do.

true, but a) both characters usually wail on each other, and b) the combo to ko principle only tends to apply at the end of fights, not the start considering how durable most heralds are. And it doesn't help that most of the time, being mad means falling from the idiot tree and hitting every branch on the way down.

that's not true in the slightest, and is a massive lowballing of thor.

yes, he is, because he's SUPERMAN, and he assumes (like usual) that actually putting him down is not going to happen, hammer or not.

They're also subject to the other character's reactions, and their own durability.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Anyone who seriously thinks that is, to be frank, an idiot. ermm

Is Joe Casey an idiot?