Superman vs Thor: EXTREME RAGE EDITION

Originally posted by -Pr-
true, but a) both characters usually wail on each other, and b) the combo to ko principle only tends to apply at the end of fights, not the start considering how durable most heralds are. And it doesn't help that most of the time, being mad means falling from the idiot tree and hitting every branch on the way down.

that's not true in the slightest, and is a massive lowballing of thor.

yes, he is, because he's SUPERMAN, and he assumes (like usual) that actually putting him down is not going to happen, hammer or not.

They're also subject to the other character's reactions, and their own durability.

These are bloodlusted characters here, not normal ones. They can combo to ko at the beginning if they want to (which they do want to do). You keep talking about what happens in comics. Well this isn't a comic fight, characters aren't usually bloodlusted in a comic. They fight normally. If this was a normal fight then ok, but it isn't.

I'm saying that AFTER (not before) a character hits another then common sense says they will keep hitting them. After all, isn't that what being bloodlusted is all about?

Lowballing Thor? Superman is stronger than Thor can will rock the living hell out of him if he hit him with all his might without holding back. I'm not saying Thor will be koed in the first punch or even with the 10th punch. But you can't tell me that Thor won't be stunned from the first blow without him being lowballed.

The same goes for Thor. If Thor hits Superman with the hammer with all his might then Superman will be rocked and stunned (not koed though). If any of these two characters hit the other with all their might and if the hit character doesn't become stunned then it is lowballing on the character who did the striking.

I don't quite understand your last two sentences. My English is sometimes off. Please clarify a little for me. Is it concerning Superman will run straight into the hammer head first? If so, then Superman still has his FTL reflexes here and can stop on a dime, or maneuver around Thor if he sees something he don't like in the mist of bullrushing. He's not about to purposely ko himself by running into the hammer when he sees it in front of him while he's charging.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Of course not, and Superman isn't too fast for Thor either, so the point is moot.

We're talking a bloodlusted Superman, and no one's posted this yet?

The probes aren't any weaker than the first he fought, the writing makes this clear. Superman has simply left his normal "world of cardboard" mindset, and tears through an army of probes easier than any other character in the story.. (Except Doomsday, I guess..)

Originally posted by Starscream M
Do you think Flash would be too fast for thor?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is the Flash faster than Superman ?

If you put lipstick on a pig, does it still look like a pig? 😎

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is the Flash faster than Superman ?

Originally posted by cdtm
If you put lipstick on a pig, does it still look like a pig? 😎

Originally posted by Starscream M
generally no.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Weird.

But the answers still yes, I hope. Only a furry lover would think a pig with lipstick was a "beautiful" pig. 😛

why can't a pig be beautiful anyway?

Originally posted by h1a8
These are bloodlusted characters here, not normal ones. They can combo to ko at the beginning if they want to (which they do want to do). You keep talking about what happens in comics. Well this isn't a comic fight, characters aren't usually bloodlusted in a comic. They fight normally. If this was a normal fight then ok, but it isn't.

I'm saying that AFTER (not before) a character hits another then common sense says they will keep hitting them. After all, isn't that what being bloodlusted is all about?

Lowballing Thor? Superman is stronger than Thor can will rock the living hell out of him if he hit him with all his might without holding back. I'm not saying Thor will be koed in the first punch or even with the 10th punch. But you can't tell me that Thor won't be stunned from the first blow without him being lowballed.

The same goes for Thor. If Thor hits Superman with the hammer with all his might then Superman will be rocked and stunned (not koed though). If any of these two characters hit the other with all their might and if the hit character doesn't become stunned then it is lowballing on the character who did the striking.

I don't quite understand your last two sentences. My English is sometimes off. Please clarify a little for me. Is it concerning Superman will run straight into the hammer head first? If so, then Superman still has his FTL reflexes here and can stop on a dime, or maneuver around Thor if he sees something he don't like in the mist of bullrushing. He's not about to purposely ko himself by running into the hammer when he sees it in front of him while he's charging.

I'm honestly done trying to reason with you. I tried to be nice about it, but if you keep this up, you're only going to end up baiting people and then getting banned.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Do you think Flash would be too fast for thor?

Depends on how much effort he's putting in.

Originally posted by cdtm
We're talking a bloodlusted Superman, and no one's posted this yet?

The probes aren't any weaker than the first he fought, the writing makes this clear. Superman has simply left his normal "world of cardboard" mindset, and tears through an army of probes easier than any other character in the story.. (Except Doomsday, I guess..)

Not a bloodlusted Superman imo.

Originally posted by Starscream M
generally no.

Yes, he is.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
why can't a pig be beautiful anyway?

O_o

I guess if we're talking about using the word platonically, sure..

But personally, I wouldn't claim makeup makes any animal beautiful. And the entire point of makeup is usually to sexify someone..

Originally posted by -Pr-

Not a bloodlusted Superman imo.

Can someone be bloodlusted, and a cold blooded killing machine at the same time?

Because in this example, Supermans become the cold blooded killer he'd never allow himself to be among humanity.. I can definitely see the the emotions he'll feel from the rape and murder of his wife driving him to this point against a living being, and not just a bunch of probes.

It would be grossly out of character, but if anything can do it, that could.. And Starscream never said they'll fight "while" discovering the shock of their lives, so it's not like the emotional shock can't leads Supes to adapt such a mindset... (Think how he was against the pocket universe criminals, for another example of an ooc cold blooded killer).

A few possible scenarios:

Grant Morrison: "This looks like a job for Worf.. I mean Superman!" *Gets clobbered with hammer* (Seriously, Morrison gave Superman his share of feats, but he was usually the guy who got knocked around to show how tough the villain of the week is, ala "The Worf Effect".)

Jeph Loeb: "I'm weak against magic! I can't stand toe to toe with you!" *Stands toe to toe with Thor, getting a very minor bloody lip in the process. Fight goes nowhere when he realizes Batman isn't there to tag out to...*

Kurt Busiek: "Now Thor, lets keep this fair. Don't use your many, many powers, and I won't use my heat vision." "Ok, that sounds fai--HEY, YOU'RE A GODDAMNED LIAR!"

Joe Casey: *Thor throws hammer, Supes catches hammer with one hand, crushes it, eats the hammer pieces, than rips Thors head off.*

Originally posted by cdtm
O_o

I guess if we're talking about using the word platonically, sure..

But personally, I wouldn't claim makeup makes any animal beautiful. And the entire point of makeup is usually to sexify someone..

you just don't understand...

no one does...

Originally posted by cdtm
A few possible scenarios:

Grant Morrison: "This looks like a job for Worf.. I mean Superman!" *Gets clobbered with hammer* (Seriously, Morrison gave Superman his share of feats, but he was usually the guy who got knocked around to show how tough the villain of the week is, ala "The Worf Effect".)

Jeph Loeb: "I'm weak against magic! I can't stand toe to toe with you!" *Stands toe to toe with Thor, getting a very minor bloody lip in the process. Fight goes nowhere when he realizes Batman isn't there to tag out to...*

Kurt Busiek: "Now Thor, lets keep this fair. Don't use your many, many powers, and I won't use my heat vision." "Ok, that sounds fai--HEY, YOU'RE A GODDAMNED LIAR!"

Joe Casey: *Thor throws hammer, Supes catches hammer with one hand, crushes it, eats the hammer pieces, than rips Thors head off.*

Originally posted by cdtm
Can someone be bloodlusted, and a cold blooded killing machine at the same time?

Because in this example, Supermans become the cold blooded killer he'd never allow himself to be among humanity.. I can definitely see the the emotions he'll feel from the rape and murder of his wife driving him to this point against a living being, and not just a bunch of probes.

It would be grossly out of character, but if anything can do it, that could.. And Starscream never said they'll fight "while" discovering the shock of their lives, so it's not like the emotional shock can't leads Supes to adapt such a mindset... (Think how he was against the pocket universe criminals, for another example of an ooc cold blooded killer).

i would say they could, but the OP is going with the "I smash you!!!" kind of bloodlust, it seems.

Originally posted by h1a8

If Thor gets hit by a rocking non holding back Superman punch then he would have no choice but to sit there and let Superman wail on him. If Thor is rocked from the first blow (as he will be), how is he going to respond if Superman hits him with another rocking blow before he recovers?

And what happens if Superman gets hit by Omnidirectional godly blasts, and then when Superman is rocked Thor follows up by a Full On God Blast??!!

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is too fast for Thor.

Likewise I could say Thor is just too versatile for Superman. And his magical based godly energy blasts are just too powerful for Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is stronger than Thor

You keep stating this as fact, and have yet to prove it.

Superman IS stronger than thor.

If Thor thought Superman was strong enough to kill Odin, wouldn't that make him more cautious and less bloodlusted?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm honestly done trying to reason with you. I tried to be nice about it, but if you keep this up, you're only going to end up baiting people and then getting banned.

Also, what is baiting (as far as posting in a forum) ? Sorry, I never knew what this ever was.