Thanos vs. Sentry/Void (all out)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yet, unfortunately this severely weakened Owen didn't have the power to perma-kill Sentry. Only disperse his molecules.

Unlike his true power (mentally stable and/or evil MM)
who proved able to not only rip out the essence/spirit of a Cube being,
but also had the power to perma-kill the most powerful Cube being,
at the expense of the freakin infinite Multiverse.

If you're talking about what I believe you're referring to,
then Owen fixed a few parts of the planet, it wasn't the whole planet,
it was literally just the great Wall of China, the Kremlin,
the White House, and Mount Rushmore.

"planetary level manipulator?" .... Not based on that son.

Owen became mentally stable at that point anyway.

So, your point is moot.

On top of the fact that in Dark Avengers,
Owen's level of molecular manipulation was literally spelled out for us:

"I control the molecules of the very world, well, [b]the ones around me"

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(Victoria Hand confirms this fact)

So why does your version make more sense?
It doesn't. It's just that you want to get your opinion through, just because.

So he's never actually died then. Cool. [/B]

👆 Sentry/Void defeated a weaker version of MM that wasn't even sky father level but the fanboys who can't read in context trying to pass it off as legit, riight!!

Thanos has fought beings out of his weight class since his rebirth; beings that Thanos has battled range from mid trans to low cosmic beings would have eaten Sentry Void alive literally.

Thanos would punk Sentry Void so bad he would really have a mental breakdown.

so what level do you think can destroy a hh like that? Just wondering

Thanos wins

It seems like quan took the day off....mmm

Originally posted by Enzeru

Molecule Man has ripped Sentry apart on three occasions and up until that point Sentry has proven to have great durability. Put other heralds in his place instead and then let's look if they can return under their own power.

Whoopee. It just happens to be what he controls: uhh, Molecules.

Grant it, Owen needed to be at close range, but meh.

Originally posted by Enzeru

Dark Avengers MM was his weakest incarnation so far

Originally posted by Enzeru

even though that version of the Molecule Man ripped a city sized chunk out of a planet and flew it through the space,
repaired the Earth at once,

Originally posted by Enzeru

The fact is that that feat sets him above the "local level manipulator" some biased people on this board make him out to be. And it's literally only this board. I've never seen people making such a stupid argument on other boards.
That's actually my favorite part of this entire "discussion" ... thanks for posting the Victoria scan, since now I don't have to do it myself.

Hand, someone who has NEVER met the Molecule Man before - at least during that arc, so she shouldn't even know about his power levels ... says that he controls the molecules around him!

Do you grasp the meaning of that?

Phuk Victoria, she's only repeating what the culrpit himself stated.

.. straight from Owen Reece's mouth:

"I control the molecules of the very world, well, the ones around me"

Originally posted by Enzeru

So now, people, who didn't even have anything to do with the Molecule Man prior to that know about his current power levels...
which are in your opinion at a local scale, yet...

[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17218639_Owen_limited1.jpg]

Originally posted by Enzeru

Comics have stated that his power levels during that arc were unknown:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/2920995-namw_2005__weak_when_empowered.jpg

LOL!

On Panel >>> Official Handbook Bios, sponsored sites, and especially second-hand minis.

Originally posted by Enzeru

Him being imprisoned happened a long time ago at that point and his power levels were manageble to a point where he wasn't ripping Victoria people apart left and right, something he did to heralds, when he re-appeared again ... and his power levels were unknown at that point, but now Victoria, who never even heard him say that he controls the Molecule's around him knew that he controls the molecules around him?

[img=http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17218639_Owen_limited1.jpg]

Third time's a charm

Originally posted by Enzeru

Damn, could it be, because that was Bendis' perception of the Molecule Man at that point, because he checked the character up in the past and saw the instances, where Molecule Man lost, because at one point he didn't have molecules around him to work with, since he was trapped in a bubble without molecules?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/2920767-ff373_20.jpg

Or how about that one moment in the fight against the Sentry, where he blows the Sentry up and the explosion sends him flying away and the Molecule Man needs to change the ground in order to stop his own fall and avoid damage? Surely, someone who can control his own molecules, rather than mainly the ones around him should have a high enough durability to take the fall without suffering any damage:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/2921159-zone_dark_avengers077.jpg

Owen immediately recovered/retaliated & exploded Sentry a Third time:

Then, the same looking orange energy has a lasting affect 3 pages later. lol
It seems to me, sub-consciously Owen had enough, and it was time to go away,
and Sentry was the only one powerful enough he could count on for the job.

Imo.

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So, Owen didn't, and showed No sign of having trans-multiversal,
multiversal, universal, galactic, solar system, solar, global, country,
state even city wide range of influence over molecules, as opposed
to actual On Panel feats affecting 44 people in a tiny Town, and a
handful of Avengers. While beyond that literally stating clearly
without room for interpretation his limitations. Even using a
comparison: 'the World? ... actually no, ... just those around me.'

Originally posted by Enzeru

Get the hell off, Mr. Master. Having an own take on something is nice and fine, but one can also take it too far.
What you're doing is ignoring stuff in comics to make excuses for the Molecule Man.

Originally posted by Enzeru

Sentry > Molecule Man > Thanos

Originally posted by ODG

Is the moral of that gif.. Sometimes Truth is funnier than Fiction? lol

Originally posted by Estacado
It seems like quan took the day off....mmm

Thanos is sad to be compared to this ****ing loser. And he's pissed off that the jerk is now called "Death".
For that, he'll take on every version of Sentry ever, and still wins.

Because Thanos is leagues above Sentry.
And because Sentry is overrated, and he sucks.

Ahhh a fellow Sentry is overrated man I see.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Big freakin deal. He dispersed his molecules.
Whoopee. It just happens to be what he controls: uhh, Molecules.

How many characters are capable of doing something like that to heralds?
Thanos has slight control over the molecules, but do you see him getting rid of his opponents that way, simply to achieve his goals faster? I certainly don't see him doing that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Grant it, Owen needed to be at close range, but meh.

Oh, now the Molecule Man is a melee brawler, who has to be in close combat in order for his tricks to work?

But he wasn't at close range, when he pulled Norman Osborn out of his armor, while Osborn was far away up in the air in flight mode :-|

Your excuses are really pesky, to a point where it's comical.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree.

The next time you want to come up with such a statement, quote my full post and not the part that suits you, even though it goes against what I actually meant.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😐 ... "city sized chunk flying through space?" ... "repaired the Earth at once?" ... 🤨

Feats beyond a local scale, son, feats beyond a local scale.
What you're doing is to lowball the Molecule Man massivly just because he didn't blow up the entire planet just to prove to you that he still has insane power levels...

": wtf :" indeed.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah. I only grasp the meaning of On Panel facts:

Not really. You're ignoring stuff and twisting the rest like a maniac so that it suits you.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Phuk Victoria, she's only repeating what the culrpit himself stated.

Now it's "Phuk Victoria", huh?
But she never heard Molecule Man saying that. Be my guest and re-read the arc and you will never see her seeing or hearing him say that he controls the molecules around him. That's the first thing she says, when she meets him from the same time.

That's a comic book fact - an on panel fact, yet you simply choose to ignore it, because it suits your needs that way. Once again, pathetic.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not in my opinion. In Bendis' opinion, who spoke through Owen to cement this fact.

Yeah, you should pay attention at Bendis' opinion, since Bendis also had Victoria knowing about Molecule Man's capabilities, before she even had the chance to learn about "his current power levels", what you're suggesting and the pesky thing is that you're still sticking with that. I've already said all of this in a prior thread, but you're ignoring clear panel events!

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆 ... So now an excerpt from a second-hand mini bio file supersedes On Panel truth? LOL!
On Panel >>> Official Handbook Bios, sponsored sites, and especially second-hand minis.

What on panel truth? There is no on panel truth.

On panel you see Molecule Man displaying capabilities, which he wasn't capable of in the past, where he still had unimagineable powers! We know that this version of Molecule Man didn't have any problems with organic matter, complex matter - also not a problem with affecting molecules on a AT LEAST city sized scale due to the chunk he ripped out of a planet and in the end of the day easily ripping apart high heralds.

You're straight up ignoring context.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let me know when it sinks in that Owen Reece spoke for himself, & Victoria simply confirmed it.

Let me know when it sinks in that Victoria didn't meen Molecule Man prior to that and therefore never even had something to repeat after him. He simply said what the case of the character was at that point and in Bendis mind is - he only controls the molecules around him.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Owen can't survive a 50 foot fall, but he can tank a direct super blast from Sentry: lol

I never said that he has the durability of a human being. If comic book characters had the durability of a human being, then half of the X-Men would be dead by now.
Molecule Man took Sentry's shot just like he took Doctor Doom's energy blasts in the past, but it still doesn't change the fact that he was avoiding getting hit, when he could. He blocked Moonstones attacks, the incoming rockets and the impact on the ground.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It seems to me

That's all there is to it ... it seems to you like stuff that has been clearly portrayed otherwise in the comics - is now totally different, because you refuse to believe otherwise.

Dude, we're discussing the character Molecule Man and not the Molecule Man during that arc. It's not a less powerful version of him from an alternate universe.
Molecule Man during that arc still had impressive showings and there is nothing which indicates that he was less powerful than the past showings of his regular self after he faced the Beyonder.

Edjucate yourself and check out Killemall's Molecule Man chronology thread on Comicvine. It's pure gold, when it comes to the standpoint of that character and luckily for everyone else, who reads this now - it comes from an unbiased point of view.

Originally posted by Mr Master
De-powered, Mentally Unstable, Subconsciously wanting to lose Owen.

You're clearly beyond helpless. Continue ignoring the stuff that actually happened in the comic. More power to you.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Thanos is sad to be compared to this ****ing loser. And he's pissed off that the jerk is now called "Death".
For that, he'll take on every version of Sentry ever, and still wins.

Because Thanos is leagues above Sentry.
And because Sentry is overrated, and he sucks.

Wow, well that certainly didn't sound biased at all (attention: irony).

Poor Quan

^^ You mean poor all. Evidently trolling has evolved from its meager days.

That's an f'n pro at work above you my friend.

... Had I noticed sooner, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

Oh well, back to burnin. stoned

Originally posted by Badabing
You Hungarian rabble rouser. sneer

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Poor Quan

Originally posted by Estacado
Problem?estahuh

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Is the moral of that gif.. Sometimes Truth is funnier than Fiction? lol

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has the power to kill the unkillables.

So Thanos can't kill unkillables for sh_t.

Bump! 💃

Void wins, he is just Sentry's dark half and not afraid of using his power. Can't see Void losing.

Originally posted by Bentley
So Thanos can't kill unkillables for sh_t.

Bump! 💃

Never believe him, honestly, he lies already when he says "Good Day"

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos wins.

What makes you believe this? Just interested in your opinion.