Originally posted by Stoic
So uhm, did you ask Damborgson to change the OP to be more suitable for Thor? He only said that the Planet was unable to explode, not that pieces of it could not be used as weapons. He said that they can use anything at hand, which could literally mean debris the size of a city. it's really not up to you or me to go changing the rules of combat this far into the thread. That's just not the way the game goes.
The OP was never edited, nice try though.
Originally posted by Starscream M
not under this scenario...which is essentially a debate of powersets. I'm saying this is spite against hulk, you're saying it isn't...so you gotta tell me how you envision hulk winning any against CISless thor.
Why should I when I believe that CISless Thor dominates the vast majority? 😬
I already said I feel that Hulk is fighting a huge uphill battle against a Thor using all of his powers and abilities to the upmost degree.
If you feel it's spite, that's your prerogative. Personally, I'll give Hulk the benefit of the doubt and say his healing factor keeps him in the fight long enough for it not to be an outright stomp.
We wouldn't be having this convo if you came into the thread already knowing what CISless Thor is capable of.
Originally posted by Starscream M
not under this scenario...which is essentially a debate of powersets. I'm saying this is spite against hulk, you're saying it isn't...so you gotta tell me how you envision hulk winning any against CISless thor.
you're jumping the gun. Silent Master did not make this thread, and only the thread starter can clarify whether or not the Hulk is unable to use environmental attacks. If not this thread should be closed, because it was made with the intent of a realistic battle between the two, and there would be no realism to it, under Silent Master's attempts to change the rules this far into the thread.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why should I when I believe that CISless Thor dominates the vast majority? 😬I already said I feel that Hulk is fighting a huge uphill battle against a Thor using all of his powers and abilities to the upmost degree.
If you feel it's spite, that's your prerogative. Personally, I'll give Hulk the benefit of the doubt and say his healing factor keeps him in the fight long enough for it not to be an outright stomp.
We wouldn't be having this convo if you came into the thread already knowing what CISless Thor is capable of.
Once again that is your opinion, and one that simply ignores the hulk's other abilities, and tactics that he could use. i wouldn't put much stock into Silent master's gripping to nothing in the dark debating tactics though. Why the Hulk would not be able to use environment attacks is simply BS.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://marvel.wikia.com/Avengers:_Earth%27s_Mightiest_Heroes_Vol_1It's from "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" (and no, it's not based off of the TV show). It's completely canon as it's a re-telling of the origin of the Avengers in the modern time.
The argument "it doesn't look canon" is a horrible one if you go simply off of the art. 😬
The scan itself still doesn't prove Silent Masters claim.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Also, concerning Thor's absorbtion:There, Thor amplifies Thanos' own mystical energy one hundred fold and he does this while invoking his weather powers at the same time, so the idea that Thor can't multi-task is rendered invalid.
And of course, here's one of Thor's greatest feats:
Notice how the process of said absorbing (not the discharge of the energy itself) takes place in a single panel, suggesting that, no, it doesn't take much time at all to do such a thing.
We know that Thor can do this very quickly and can call upon storms while doing it. I don't think Thor wins 10/10, but he definitely wins a majority here.
Despite the stips being one sided in Thor's favour it is far from being a one sided fight. A CISless Thor will fight without restraint but the fact he can't afford a direct assault from this Hulk ways heavily against him even with his superior versatility. Hulk has always tagged Thor in the past, flying or not.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou know that's a perfect example of the unstoppable force meeting the umovable object.....
He can throw all the rocks he wants, but he can't rip apart an indestructible planet.
The indestructible planet cannot be ripped apart thus being unmovable for(ripping it apart from the ground that is,cause it's not impossible to to move the planet but impossible to shred it's chucks from the ground thus making it unmovable)While Hulk has unlimited strength and if he finds something he can't lift at base(which is impossible) he can just gain the strength to do it in a instance thus making him unstoppable...get where i'm going???
Originally posted by The SorrowBecause it was his. Doesn't mean it was radiation. To still think it was the green radiation that was radiating off his body despite it being in blast form and that its a different color seems like its obvious that it isn't the same stuff anymore. Jake already explained where its from.
Thor says "return your" energy tenfold. I appreciate the scan but it's pretty ambiguous and doesn't really definitively confirm your claim either way. What book is this from? It doesn't even look canon.
