Originally posted by Fiendish
Silver Surfer #24 is Motherboard 49.7s sole appearance, if you've read that issue you've seen all its feats.
So it's powerful because it drained Surfer? Awesome logic.
Fair enough.
OK.
You're scans end just before the page that demonstrated Surfer being "drained" didn't have the effect on him Demonstar believed it did, he was holding back because he believed they had Shalla Bal captive, as soon as it was revealed they didn't, Surfer effortlessly defeated Demonstar.
Because she stopped draining him and started gloating. Surfer then atomized her staff.
Not resisted the draining.
Drax breached the city without going through the draining area, he went directly into interior city to meet with Surfer.
The entire city was an energy draining device. Hence Surfer was depowered all the time.
You need me to explain the effect prep and knowledge can have in battles? Often in the scenarios without prep (and even some with) Surfer ends up resisting/overcoming/overpowering the drain attempts.
Like when? He has done it when the weapons draining him aren't equipped with draining him entirely.
Did you even read the story? They were draining him successfully until they stopped and surfer overloaded their weapons by firing all his energy at once. It was specifically stated even.He resisted and overloaded their draining attempt. Something you forgot to mention, so you can understand why I assumed you had just missed that part.
Makes sense, the Quantum Zone is limitless and Quasar is a better energy manipulator than Surfer.
Quasar doesn't has unlimited energy on his disposal. And Superman has better range and power of energy manipulation than Quasar. He can manipulate kinetic, psychic, magical and life energy which both surfer and Quasar can't.
It's an instance where draining was an ineffective tactic against him.
From fodder demons? What's next? Beating hand ninjas as a feat?
I take it you haven't actually read Hulk #12. I can't post links, so if you're actually interested just do a search for "Norrin Radd Earth-90512".
Well I actually have. And Grandmaster brought surfer from 616 reality past to future.
It's never informed that he was from an alternate reality.
The Sonic Shark was designed specifically to drain cosmic energy, it was General Fredricks's countermeasure against Surfer.
It was Reed's invention to absorb cosmic radiation. Not designed for Surfer. Read the comic before spouting nonsense.
You might want to actually read your scan from Silver Surfer #124 if you think that equipment wasn't specifically designed for Surfer.
I have. It's just an energy drainer.
Have you read the High Evolutionary Arc? It's clear the High Evolutionary carefully planned and prepped for his encounter with the Surfer.
I have. It still doesn't excuses his casual draining.
Hulk's overpowered numerous energy drainers and energy draining devices over the years, that's kinda his thing.
Better than Surfer? Where was that fabled energy manipulation then?
How was the storm just for show? The energy discharges from it were clearly destroying things. When Surfer absorbed and redirected the energy of the storm he absorbed the creature right into his body, that's what allowed it to attack him from within.
What are you talking about? The creature flay out stated that the storm was just for show.
And surfer didn't absorb the creature in his body. Where did you get that?
With prep, Doom's stolen Galactus and the Beyonder's power before as well. You think him stealing Surfer's power shows a particular weakness for the Surfer?
Are you sure about the same device draining Galactus and Beyonder? Doom stole his power by some magnets. It's not that hard to replicate.
No matter how much energy Quasar drained from Surfer it wasn't slowing Surfer down and yes Surfer simply overloaded Krosakis.
Well, it's good thing that Superman can absorb energy better than Quasar.
And Krosakis overloaded himself.
In both cases draining was an ineffective tactic, it didn't give them a victory and in Krosakis case it resulted in his loss.
These are two cases. I've shown nearly twenty cases where draining is a very effective tactic against Surfer. More than against any Herald.
Surfer's already had a superior energy manipulator (Quasar) try to drain him in combat, it wasn't effective.
Well Quasar isn't a superior energy manipulator than energy Superman. He explicitly can't manipulate kinetic energy from physical attacks.
Superman can do that effortlessly.
