The Nefaria overrating on other forums is because he's a Kirby creation, right?
On another forum I used to visit, it's been seriously argued by otherwise credible posters that Count Nefaria is like an evil Pre Crisis Superman.. His best strength feat is, what, lifting a skyscraper? And his speeds kind of a slow super sonic, if he's 100 times the Whirlwind.
Anyways...
1. If Iron Man in "Overdrive mode" can KO Savage Hulk, Nefaria should be able to as well, since he matched and overpowered IM while overdriving.
2. Hulk.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Nefaria wins.No incarnation of the Hulk was able to do what Nefaria did to so many, so quickly and so easily.
But who did he do it too?
Atlas and Wonderman were the biggest guns in the Avengers/Thunderbolts, and they weren't even in the fight. That left, who, Iron Man as the heavy hitter?
The same Iron Man Namor usually dismantles easily?
His original fight against the Avengers was more impressive, but his performance against Thor isn't beyond how Hulks done against him..
Originally posted by cdtmHulk has never casually palmed Thor's hammer. And he has shrugged off blows from Wonderman and Thor. Hulk cannot say the same thing.
But who did he do it too?Atlas and Wonderman were the biggest guns in the Avengers/Thunderbolts, and they weren't even in the fight. That left, who, Iron Man as the heavy hitter?
The same Iron Man Namor usually dismantles easily?
His original fight against the Avengers was more impressive, but his performance against Thor isn't beyond how Hulks done against him..
Originally posted by Horrificus
Hulk has never casually palmed Thor's hammer. And he has shrugged off blows from Wonderman and Thor. Hulk cannot say the same thing.
And, this is just a description of the strength and durability advantage.
Hulks blows seemed to hurt him.
Wonder Man couldn't hurt Thor with his best punch, either, in his first showing. The only reason he managed to knock him off his feet, is because it was a sucker punch (established by the story), yet the story made it clear he could not harm Thor.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Hulk has never casually palmed Thor's hammer. And he has shrugged off blows from Wonderman and Thor. Hulk cannot say the same thing.
And, this is just a description of the strength and durability advantage.
Do you know who.World Breaker Hulk is? Heralds attacks wasnt even causing him an inch and these are huh class Heralds...Heralds that have fts of damaging Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9I read the whole thing. He took plenty of punishment and was not as untouchable as Nefaria was. I'm just going by what was on panel.
Do you know who.World Breaker Hulk is? Heralds attacks wasnt even causing him an inch and these are huh class Heralds...Heralds that have fts of damaging Surfer.
Originally posted by cdtmI'm not sure what you mean by his first showing, but Wonderman has NEVER been an easy fight for any heavy-weight.
Hulks blows seemed to hurt him.Wonder Man couldn't hurt Thor with his best punch, either, in his first showing. The only reason he managed to knock him off his feet, is because it was a sucker punch (established by the story), yet the story made it clear he could not harm Thor.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Hulk has never casually palmed Thor's hammer. And he has shrugged off blows from Wonderman and Thor. Hulk cannot say the same thing.
And, this is just a description of the strength and durability advantage.
What? Rulk took a hit in the face by Thor's hammer full force, and sat there with a grin on his face. The Hulk broke Rulks ass. Nefaria would get the snot beaten out of him by present day Hulk. Savage Hulk would have a very hard time with him, and lose the majority, if and only if Nefaria is quick about taking him out.
