Originally posted by Horrificus
If Nul is just a fraction of an aspect of the Serpent's power and Thor defeated the Serpent, doesn't that make him above Nul?
With the addition of the Hulk's power of course.
I'm just trying to look at it logically, unless I'm mistaken about the facts involved.
Thor was amped when he fought the serpent. Thor faced the Serpent before his amp and didn't do so well.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Thor charged and Hulk glowing like a Super Saiyan. The entire city block is filled with lightning...a big a** Chaos King blast comes from the sky, Nul is in the air. MUCH more than a hammer swing was involved in that one scene. Thor did something I have never witnessed him doing in a comic. He used every ounce of his power to bfr Nul and passed out doing this.
It was a hammer swing, Thor charged it but I thought that went without saying.
Chaos King sized? Exaggeration. It's also not the most power Thor can bring to bare.
Originally posted by carver9
Nul then bounce up after hitting the planet, still at 100% and had enough power to shed Uru and Adamantium with one hand. Nul was on another level. Thor even admits this.
Well, with the the regeneration and increased durability that the hammers provide on top of Hulk's own powers (Not to mention that Nul is in itself a very powerful entity apparently), the combined stamina would be immense but tbf, Thor went through a few ordeals, was suffering from the World Tree wound and soon after fought the Serpent.
Thor never said Nul was above him. He said that he couldn't beat Nul (In the context of straight up close combat I'm assuming) but that's not an admission of inferiority, just an acknowledgment of Nul's capabilities.
Originally posted by Damborgson
you're saying Thor was amped vs the serpent right? I'm saying not really. He was physically pretty weakened and the Odinsword really only balanced it out. Its not like he gained trans status with it or something though.
So something on panel was stated that Thor was weakened?
Originally posted by StoicSpeculation but either way Nul was amped.
Nul was written weaker than the Hulk during HOTM, this is certain, and the idea that a Hulk without additional supernatural power can, and has gone toe to toe with Thor several times makes Nul's battle with Thor seem like it was illogically written.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation but either way Nul was amped.
How it's speculation is beyond me. The Hulk has fought Thor without the amp of supernatural powers, and a weapon and he did well alone. This showing with Nul seemed more like a biased writers opinion of things, and was not written properly.
Originally posted by Stoic
How it's speculation is beyond me. The Hulk has fought Thor without the amp of supernatural powers, and a weapon and he did well alone. This showing with Nul seemed more like a biased writers opinion of things, and was not written properly.
I didnt see anything special about the fight to make anyone think it was speculation.
Originally posted by carver9Getting beat by Odin, forcefully ifought the forces of the serpent, attacked by the serpent and dropped hard enough to draw blood, took on a low trans and high herald, beat them, fell due to exhaustion, was told by Odin that he had wounds that would not heal, in addition to the gaping cosmic wound he already had that caused him constant pain, so idk seems to be like he wasn't exactly doing fine at the time.
So something on panel was stated that Thor was weakened?
Originally posted by Damborgson
Getting beat by Odin, forcefully ifought the forces of the serpent, attacked by the serpent and dropped hard enough to draw blood, took on a low trans and high herald, beat them, fell due to exhaustion, was told by Odin that he had wounds that would not heal, in addition to the gaping cosmic wound he already had that caused him constant pain, so idk seems to be like he wasn't exactly doing fine at the time.
That's the point of being a high Herald. I didnt see anything during that fight to suggest Thor was weakened. That's like me discrediting everything Hulk went through during World at War because he was consistently fighting "non-stop". Thor wasn't weakened.
Originally posted by carver9
That's the point of being a high Herald. I didnt see anything during that fight to suggest Thor was weakened. That's like me discrediting everything Hulk went through during World at War because he was consistently fighting "non-stop". Thor wasn't weakened.
Fear Itself was meant to give Thor props, shit the Hulk had his WW Hulk, and HOTM wankage moments, so I don't see anything wrong with Thor having his day in the sun. Thor beating Nul was a great showing, I didn't think it was written properly but whatever. The implications of shit writing should be very evident in future battles between the two,
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz at the leap of logic. Hulk has a healing factor, thor does not.
Hulks healing factor can be taxed just like any healing factor could. He fought non-stop. Thor being bfred by Serpent shouldn't do anything noticable towards his performance and Thor pretty much fought in a RAGE fashion and actually have fts of damaging Galactus with that scar on his chest. Thor wasn't weakened.
Originally posted by Stoici agree, except for the underlined part
Fear Itself was meant to give Thor props, shit the Hulk had his WW Hulk, and HOTM wankage moments, so I don't see anything wrong with Thor having his day in the sun. Thor beating Nul was a great showing, I didn't think it was written properly but whatever. The implications of shit writing should be very evident in future battles between the two,
thor was using death blows talking about how he relishes finally caving in his face, but he only managed a (best case scenario) flask ko/bfr.