Originally posted by Galan007
Kubik.
A Full Cube Being (Kubik) beat a half Cube Being (Beyonder) which is expected but nothing impressive. Abraxas' very presence put MULTI-Eternity into a panicked state (I think he was actually comatosed). He didn't even have to lift a finger to attack MULTI-Eternity.
Originally posted by zopzop
A Full Cube Being (Kubik) beat a half Cube Being (Beyonder) which is expected but nothing impressive. Abraxas' very presence put MULTI-Eternity into a panicked state (I think he was actually comatosed). He didn't even have to lift a finger to attack MULTI-Eternity.
that was the beyonder in his all powerful state
and he was handled
i love the dark man also
kubik's feat cannot b overlooked
Originally posted by guy222
that was the beyonder in his all powerful stateand he was handled
i love the dark man also
kubik's feat cannot b overlooked
But Guy, that's the very issue the retcon took place in. They even admit that they are not on the level of Eternity or the Living Tribunal or the other cosmics.
So basically it was a full Cube Being beating a half Cube Being.
Originally posted by zopzopScaring Eternity isn't a feat. All that does is tell us what Abraxas might have been capable of, if he'd of used more of his touted (imo, overrated) power on panel--which, sadly, he didn't. Opposite side of the coin, Kubik gesturely warped Beyonder's entire universe into a palm-sized sphere that he could have effortlessly crushed in his hands.
A Full Cube Being (Kubik) beat a half Cube Being (Beyonder) which is expected but nothing impressive. Abraxas' very presence put MULTI-Eternity into a panicked state (I think he was actually comatosed). He didn't even have to lift a finger to attack MULTI-Eternity.
That is far and away superior to any FEATS Abraxas preformed on panel.
Originally posted by zopzop
But Guy, that's the very issue the retcon took place in. They even admit that they are not on the level of Eternity or the Living Tribunal or the other cosmics.So basically it was a full Cube Being beating a half Cube Being.
hey buddy
i believe that was man from beyond pre retcon...i will check though
Originally posted by Galan007
Scaring Eternity isn't a feat. All that does is tell us what Abraxas might have been capable of, if he'd of used more of his touted (imo, overrated) power on panel--which, sadly, he didn't. Opposite side of the coin, Kubik gesturely warped Beyonder's entire universe into a palm-sized sphere that he could have effortlessly crushed in his hands.That is far and away superior to any FEATS Abraxas preformed on panel.
Casually warping a "universe" created by the power of HALF a Cube Being is nice, but this is much better :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t524678.html
Multiversal scale damage and MULTI-Eternity begging for help. Kubik himself has admitted inferiority (on at least two occasions) to a SINGLE Celestial, Eternity > A Single Celestial. Multi-Eternity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Single Celestial.
Originally posted by zopzopYou continue reiterating "half a cube being's universe" as though it somehow diminishes the fact that Kubik gesturely warped a full-fledged universe in the palm of his hand. It doesn't.
Casually warping a "universe" created by the power of HALF a Cube Being is nice, but this is much better
Originally posted by zopzopAgain, this isn't a literal feat, but rather, a feat of implied power. To the contrary, my only point is that the feats Kubik preformed on panel are superior to the feats Abraxas preformed on panel.
MULTI-Eternity begging for help.
Originally posted by Galan007Feats don't determine who is more powerful nor have they ever.
Scaring Eternity isn't a feat. All that does is tell us what Abraxas might have been capable of, if he'd of used more of his touted (imo, overrated) power on panel--which, sadly, he didn't. Opposite side of the coin, Kubik gesturely warped Beyonder's entire universe into a palm-sized sphere that he could have effortlessly crushed in his hands.That is far and away superior to any FEATS Abraxas preformed on panel.
Originally posted by Galan007
You continue reiterating "half a cube being's universe" as though it somehow diminishes the fact that Kubik gesturely warped a full-fledged universe in the palm of his hand. It doesn't.Again, this isn't a literal feat, but rather, a feat of implied power. To the contrary, my only point is that the feats Kubik preformed on panel are superior to the feats Abraxas preformed on panel.
Kubik has ONE "impressive" feat on panel vs HALF a Cube Being. And fans cling to that like white on rice.
Fact is, he beat HALF a Cube Being. Full Cube Beings like Kosmos and Kubik were crapping their pants at the impending judgement of a SINGLE no name Celestial. He's admitted on panel that they (Cube Beings) are many tiers below Celestials. No single Celestial with the exception of Scathan or the ascended Tiamut, are a match for Eternity, let alone MULTI-ETERNITy.
And this is ignoring the fact that Franklin Richards was also powerless and in fear against Abraxas. The same Franklin that the Rogue Celestials (plural) feared.
This being, Abraxas, had MULTI-Eternity sh|tting bricks and begging for help. The EMBODIMENT of the MULTIVERSE was helpless and begging for help vs Abraxas. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANYTHING Kubik has ever done or will do.