Kubik vs Abraxas

Started by Galan0075 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
You want me to ignore all this on panel statements and accept as fact a handbook entry that's clearly wrong?
Wait, so you are choosing to accept statements made in Marvel-published books released 20+ years ago, but are opting to ignore statements made in a Marvel-published book released in 2006? That's... laughable, to say the least. Like I said above: the most recent info=the most canon. That's how the proverbial 'comic wheel' has ALWAYS turned.

At any rate, I can't be bothered to reply to asinine thought processes like this any further. I'm sure Mr M will get a good chuckle, though. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Wait, so you are choosing to accept statements made in Marvel-published books released [b]20+ years ago, and are opting to ignore statements made in a Marvel-published book released in 2006?

That's... laughable, to say the least. At any rate, I can't be bothered to reply to asinine thought processes like this any further. I'm sure Mr M will get a good chuckle, though.
🙂 [/B]

Why do you get pissy like this? I'm merely stating that, ON PANEL, nothing has been retconned since those scans I posted. They are valid. The handbook entry conflicts with the on panel statements and I thought we go with the on panel statements in all cases where they conflict with handbook entries.

Originally posted by zopzop
Why do you get pissy like this?
If you think I was being pissy there, you haven't seen anything. 😉

Anywho, the the most recent info=the most canon. For instance, if a pre-new 52 comic would have been released that stated Superman was no longer vulnerable to Kryptonite, then it would generally be accepted as fact (regardless of his extensive history of being extremely vulnerable to k-nite), because it would be the most current/canon info on the subject. Ya feelz me?

Doesn't make it any less ridiculous... But ridiculous and canon pretty much go hand-in-hand. ermm

Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree. I did enjoy the speculation though.

Abraxas collapsed many Realities via merging them.

The writer is just again, clarifying what it is Abraxas does.

Reality destroyer!

Simple.

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[B]His Job:

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Occupation: "Dimensional Destroyer"

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His power"

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"Abaraxs ... power enabling him to traverse and manipulate Dimensions at will,
restructure matter
... "

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What he did

AB - FF Ultimate Guide bio:

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"He can restructure matter and convert physical matter into pure energy ...
he has destroyed
entire PLANES of Reality"

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i'm not sure what you are disagreeing with here. do you disagree that in the analogy that was made the worlds were the SAND? 😕

"Imagine each of those Worlds like sand in an hourglass ...
an hourglass which Abraxas will shatter"

not sure how you could disagree with that.....

also unclear on where i'm 'speculating'. we saw he was merging worlds, blurring lines. he was in effect breaking the barriers that kept worlds from worlds. when they combined, individual realities WERE destroyed--they were combined into some new, chaotic mess. iow, when the "sand" was all mixed up and the walls holding them inside were smashed, there was no way to reorder them WITHOUT starting all over again. read: nullifier. which is perfectly in line with him being (as cap universe described him) a force of chaos.

what i've said in no way at all contradicts what was in the bio or how his character was described. the hourglass (representing an orderly multiverse) needed to be rebuilt. that is what the un did--rebuilt the hourglass.

when the bio says he destroyed realities, that doesn't imply he went around "blasting them out of existence." he destroyed their individuality by merging them. that's what was shown and that was the nature of his power as depicted on panel.