Originally posted by Raptor22
Also I compare Logan handling his beserker rage to Bruce handling fear gas. Logan mind is telling him to kill,kill,kill even his friends and he fights it, Bruce's mind is telling him everyone and everything is his most terrifying nightmare and he keeps his shit togeather and doesn't kill them.
Comparing berserk to fear gas is 😆
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
you do understand these arnt comparable right? Beserker rage is on a completely different level. Wolverine has dealt with fear gas before. it did absolutely nothing to him. He was not bothered in the slightest.Comparing berserk to fear gas is 😆
Wolverine hasn't dealt with Scarecrow's gas, though. Not canonically anyway.
Originally posted by Raptor22If you read Wolverine u know that he does do a lot of self reflecting from similar attacks from Shiva... it isnt always about overcoming it with rage but accepting his lot in life and dealing with it.
I think some of the examples given for wolverine are a little misleading in the sense that a lot of the things he overcomes isn't thru will power but thru hatred, anger and rage. Like the Shiva example he didn't look deep inside himself and find the will to go on. he got angry and fed off that. Kind of like difference between a red and green lantern. Also will power and a having the will to live are different. Logan's will to live is prob equal to batmans, but not even close in other areas of will power.
Wolverine has various note worthy quotes about will power and life. overcome trauma with rage or indifference is still a matter of will. you are simply nit picking b/c of the level of trauma that Wolverine has lived with that Batman could never survive or live with psychologically, spiritually and physically.
Wolverine has found the resolve time and again to continue to move forward and faced them all in different ways.
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Dont forget the spirit attack from the black dragons. The soul punch brought every bad part of his life to the surface. It was a spiritual attack and Logan learned to live with it and cope to the point he could no sell a soul attack.
He didnt do it through rage but it was still a matter of will via discipline and facing it..
Will power is simply having the power to act however one does it. Wolverine acts whether he uses rage, discipline or whatever emotion u want to attribute it to. it just determination.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Rematch: Wolverine vs. the Black Dragon Death Squad! Pressure points? Check. Claws? Check. Badass Wolverine action? Yeah thats a check. They don't call him the fist of legend for nothing bub.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Still not the same, regardless.
also the kid never even stated scarecrow fear gas, in fact all he said was fear gas.
You also focused on possibly the most mealiness part of the entire thread. You got nothing to say about the feats posted?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There also zero evidence that fear gas is remotely on the same level as berserk.also the kid never even stated scarecrow fear gas, in fact all he said was fear gas.
You also focused on possibly the most mealiness part of the entire thread. You got nothing to say about the feats posted?
There's zero evidence that beserk is on the same level as fear gas too, though.
I focused on something that caught my eye; i've already given my opinion as to who would win.
Originally posted by -Pr-
There's zero evidence that beserk is on the same level as fear gas too, though.I focused on something that caught my eye; i've already given my opinion as to who would win.
Really there isent? Strange since we know Wolverine has no sell fear gas, but then had extreme issue with berserk before.
I notice you have said nothing about the feats presented. nor posted any evdience your self. in fact all you did was nitpick that fact that it wasent DC scarecrow fear gas. whoopy. The kid I was argueing said fear gas to begin with.
I dont think i gunna bother with you. You iinstead of debating the topic at hand and you know providng evidence for your stance. you instead nitpick pointless detail and argueing semantics.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Really there isent? Strange since we know Wolverine has no sell fear gas, but then had extreme issue with berserk before.I notice you have said nothing about the feats presented. nor posted any evdience your self. in fact all you did was nitpick that fact that it wasent DC scarecrow fear gas. whoopy. The kid I was argueing said fear gas to begin with.
I dont think i gunna bother with you. You iinstead of debating the topic at hand and you know providng evidence for your stance. you instead nitpick pointless detail.
Has he no-sold Scarecrow's fear gas before? Honestly, I do believe Logan could push through it, I just really don't like it when people are so dismissive of things.
Why would I argue about the feats presented? I know both characters well enough that I don't need to discuss feats presented, mostly because I've seen them before.
So no, I'm not nitpicking; you're just being difficult because I dared to side with someone other than Wolverine.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Has he no-sold Scarecrow's fear gas before? Honestly, I do believe Logan could push through it, I just really don't like it when people are so dismissive of things.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Why would I argue about the feats presented? I know both characters well enough that I don't need to discuss feats presented, mostly because I've seen them before.
Originally posted by -Pr-
So no, I'm not nitpicking; you're just being difficult because I dared to side with someone other than Wolverine.
I just love that there no swaying you. And your response scream bias.
I dont care, I think your one of the most bias members of the board. So have fun with your all knowingness.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yes scarecrows fear gas. just marvel scarecrow. That was in fact his name. So yes I could actaully answer the question with simply yes.It pointless debating you. you made up your descission well before you enter the thread. It bias like this that mind boggling.
I dont care who you side with. it not like you are ever on the same side of debate I am on anyways.
I just love that there no swaying you. And your response scream bias.
I dont care, I think your one of the most bias members of the board. So have fun with your all knowingness.
But it would be inaccurate, as we're talking about a different Scarecrow.
You're calling me biased? Because I have comic knowledge that doesn't depend on threads?
Out of the two of us, you really think I'M the one that comes across as biased in this thread?
Originally posted by Nietzschean
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It been posted. Dont bother. He reponse was "ive already seen all the feats and know both characters". There no reason to debate him. He made up his mind. Your just gunna get sucked it semantic debate. In which everyone else will use to ignore the evidence presented.
I never said I've seen all the feats.
Originally posted by -Pr-
But it would be inaccurate, as we're talking about a different Scarecrow.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You're calling me biased? Because I have comic knowledge that doesn't depend on threads?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Out of the two of us, you really think I'M the one that comes across as biased in this thread?
Originally posted by -Pr-
I never said I've seen all the feats.
really seem like you imply that here,
Originally posted by -Pr-Why would I argue about the feats presented? I know both characters well enough that I don't need to discuss feats presented, mostly because I've seen them before.
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these are the type of statements I am talking about. reeks of bias.
