Travel Speed

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Re: Re: Travel Speed

Originally posted by carver9
Travel speed through space...all of them are equal. There is nothing to hold you back in space which allows some of the not so fastest beings to go FTL (Rogue, Ironman, Super Skrull,Magneto, Vulcan)

Outside of space flight, in a gravitational environment, I don't know who can beat who. I would put Surfer above all of them based off of his speed fts on Earth with Nova being a runner up...this is minus Flash.

The OP meant ACCELERATION which is a stronger than travel speed. For example, anyone can reach light speed and beyond in space but the question is how long would it take them to reach such speeds. Or another better question would be who can travel X light years in the least amount of time.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
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the predator holding that scorpion in his hand is a representation of surfer's relation ship with the lowly dick rider: a lower life form that can be killed on a whim

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the predator holding that scorpion in his hand is a representation of surfer's relation ship with the lowly dick rider: a lower life form that can be killed on a whim

I think I get it now. Kinda like Zeus did the Hulk huh?

Yes. Yes I see it now.

hulk was holding back

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk was holding back

Riiight. Wink wink...

This is the opening post:

Originally posted by Stoic
Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed.

Quasar
Silver Surfer
Superman
Gladiator
Thor
Nova Prime
GL Hal
Flash
Galactus
Adam Warlock
Wonder Woman
J'onn J'onnz
Orion

This is your post.

Originally posted by h1a8
The OP meant ACCELERATION which is a stronger than travel speed. For example, anyone can reach light speed and beyond in space but the question is how long would it take them to reach such speeds. Or another better question would be who can travel X light years in the least amount of time.

The travel speed can be construed as the current velocity. Or distance changed over a period of time.
Acceleration is the rate in change in velocity from one time to another time.

You are not the thread starter so there is nothing for you to clarify. Only your opinion. Thus:

You are wrong.

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Originally posted by rotiart

The travel speed can be construed as the current velocity. Or distance changed over a period of time.
Acceleration is the rate in change in velocity from one time to another time.

You are not the thread starter so there is nothing for you to clarify. Only your opinion. Thus:

You are wrong.

It is pretty obvious, the OP meant acceleration, maximum velocity or a combination of both, or intended it to mean that but was unaware of the right term.

You said OP meant "current velocity"? What is the "current velocity" of any of the characters may I ask? Are they flying somewhere right now where you can measure it?

An if we measure the instantaneous speed of feats, it pretty much amounts to the same results as the abovementioned.

You are wrong.

By the way, not all characters can reach the same speed given enough time. Some of the feats achieved by the fastest on the list achieve effects that are way beyond the scope of even theoretical science. The slower speedsters could not achieve such a feat even given infinite time, and assuming they even had the stamina to last long enough to reach those extreme FTL speeds.

Originally posted by Placidity
It is pretty obvious, the OP meant acceleration, maximum velocity or a combination of both, or intended it to mean that but was unaware of the right term.

You said OP meant "current velocity"? What is the "current velocity" of any of the characters may I ask? Are they flying somewhere right now where you can measure it?

An if we measure the instantaneous speed of feats, it pretty much amounts to the same results as the abovementioned.

You are wrong.

By the way, not all characters can reach the same speed given enough time. Some of the feats achieved by the fastest on the list achieve effects that are way beyond the scope of even theoretical science. The slower speedsters could not achieve such a feat even given infinite time, and assuming they even had the stamina to last long enough to reach those extreme FTL speeds.

So rather than state which guy has achieve the fastest top speed you think travel speed is the same as acceleration?

How do you determine speed? Rate of distance over time.
How do you determine acceleration? By comparing to rates and determining the difference between the two.

Acceleration is not speed. If the thread starter wants to come in and clarify his point then that's fine. For you people that want to come in here and make up whatever the hell you want to make it fit your point and come up with... This is what he meant... When nothin else in this thread alludes to that... Then that's for your imagination to do.

You can't even show he meant acceleration. Why. It says travel speed. I even quoted the damn op. read it again or find me another post from the starter. Otherwise you are just as ignorant as hiA8

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk was holding back

so was the z-man

Originally posted by rotiart
This is the opening post:

This is your post.

The travel speed can be construed as the current velocity. Or distance changed over a period of time.
Acceleration is the rate in change in velocity from one time to another time.

You are not the thread starter so there is nothing for you to clarify. Only your opinion. Thus:

You are wrong.

What the OP said =/= what the OP meant.

Velocity changes. That is the key. No one travels a fixed velocity in comics starting from rest. Things and beings speed up and slow down.

If I'm wrong then no one wins in the thread since ANYONE can reach ANY SPEED they want. Even if it takes them 50 years to reach it.

Originally posted by rotiart
So rather than state which guy has achieve the fastest top speed you think travel speed is the same as acceleration?

How do you determine speed? Rate of distance over time.
How do you determine acceleration? By comparing to rates and determining the difference between the two.

Acceleration is not speed. If the thread starter wants to come in and clarify his point then that's fine. For you people that want to come in here and make up whatever the hell you want to make it fit your point and come up with... This is what he meant... When nothin else in this thread alludes to that... Then that's for your imagination to do.

You can't even show he meant acceleration. Why. It says travel speed. I even quoted the damn op. read it again or find me another post from the starter. Otherwise you are just as ignorant as hiA8

Stop being stupid. Speed =/= distance over time since speed CHANGES OVER TIME. Both Average speed = distance over time and constant speed = distance over time though.

So to force the OP to mean travel speed means to force the OP into an false question or to not know the definition of TRAVEL SPEED.

If travel speed is defined as distance over time then the greater the acceleration then the greater the travel speed from rest since travel speed =d/t=1/2at

Originally posted by h1a8
What the OP said =/= what the OP meant.

Velocity changes. That is the key. No one travels a fixed velocity in comics starting from rest. Things and beings speed up and slow down.

If I'm wrong then no one wins in the thread since ANYONE can reach ANY SPEED they want. Even if it takes them 50 years to reach it.

No they can't.
As a quick anaolgy no matter how fast captain America runs he will never reach the same comparable potential speeds as flash. False anaolgy. His acceleration. Top speed. Etc.

You proved the falseness of your arguments. Thanks for playing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop being stupid. Speed =/= distance over time since speed CHANGES OVER TIME. Both Average speed = distance over time and constant speed = distance over time though.

So to force the OP to mean travel speed means to force the OP into an false question or to not know the definition of TRAVEL SPEED.

If travel speed is defined as distance over time then the greater the acceleration then the greater the travel speed from rest since travel speed =d/t=1/2at

I didn't force the op to say anything. Did you bother to read the op?
"Place these character's in order from slowest to fastest in terms of travel speed."

You are trying to place te interpretation in a way that suits you, when , if you are as smart as you claim, know that with all the false physics rhetoric you throw out speed is not the same as acceleration.

Current velocity.
Take a baseball that was thrown. When you put a radar gun on it... What are you measuring.
Same with a car?
Does anyone normally consider the rate of acceleration?
When they are figuring top speed it normally refers to maximum possible speed reachable.

Originally posted by h1a8
What the OP said =/= what the OP meant.

Velocity changes. That is the key. No one travels a fixed velocity in comics starting from rest. Things and beings speed up and slow down.

If I'm wrong then no one wins in the thread since ANYONE can reach ANY SPEED they want. Even if it takes them 50 years to reach it.

this is so wrong on so many levels.

just to illustrate how really stupid this post is its like saying a gokart can eventually reach the top speed of an f1 race car given enough time when it is obvious that when a gokart reaches its maximum speed, it will no longer speed up since the power generated by its engine can only sustain the given maxspeed and can no longer accelerate it further.

As usual, h1 = full of crap.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
this is so wrong on so many levels.

just to illustrate how really stupid this post is its like saying a gokart can eventually reach the top speed of an f1 race car given enough time when it is obvious that when a gokart reaches its maximum speed, it will no longer speed up since the power generated by its engine can only sustain the given maxspeed and can no longer accelerate it further.

As usual, h1 = full of crap.

That means you lack basic physic principles.

1. You have drag forces in the atmosphere that is directly proportional to the square of the velocity. That means there exists a terminal velocity for a fixed force.

2. In space we assume there is no drag forces (forces that are directly proportional to the square of the velocity). As long as a constant force is applied to you then you will continue to accelerate.

3. Many go karts are built with limiters (max rpm engine, etc.) that would prevent further speed increases anyway.

Dark matter. There is coefficients that slow you down in space, but their factor is so small we simply don't account for it in calculations,

There is also the gravity of other celestial bodies that have an effect on your trajectory and speed which we don't take into account when figuring distane.

Space is not an absolute vacuum, which is the requirement for your supposed no drag limiter....

You made the assumption space is an absolute vacuum, and the theory is it isn't, so....

And the terms are who has the fastest travel speed. If you want to make hypothetical postulates all day long everything could potentially have infinite speeds. Breaking the speed of light infinite times over. Course you'd have to break other current rules like the idea that the maximum speed is the speed of light..,

Should we now discuss the theory of relativity or possibly the principles of invariant light speed?

Or how about you admit these are freaking stupid comics and apply te sense for which it was assumed.

On panel this is the maximum figured speed without using teleportation, wormholes, hyperspace, etc.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.