Any who, Carver said feats so...
Let's start with classic Sphinx at his base strength levels prior to Xandar amp.
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326248868076.jpg
Casually tells Grimm he could crush him at any time. Let's him know that the stone can give him even more power if need be.
Here he is with an incomplete nearly drained stone, again at his base level of strength nearly beating Grimm to death...
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326305187285.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326560066504.jpg
Finally with no stone at all...
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326249277289.jpg
Those scans were just to establish a solid level of base strength for The Sphincter. Him casually handling the thing without amping as compared to Grimm's contemporaries prolly places him somewhere in the WWH/Super pissed off Savage Hulk range in terms of general strength. If anyone agrees that that's a fair assessment then I'll move on to more advanced stuff.
What makes you believe that the Sphinx had levels that even came close to Galactus? From what I recall, Galactus beat the Sphinx without issue. Titles are good and fine, but feats outweigh titles. What did the Sphinx do other than get absolutely dominated by Galactus? I'm posting the comic issue that this all went down in. Check it out. The Sphinx with one Ka Stone wasn't that impressive.
Originally posted by dmills
Any who, Carver said feats so...Let's start with classic Sphinx at his base strength levels prior to Xandar amp.
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326248868076.jpg
Casually tells Grimm he could crush him at any time. Let's him know that the stone can give him even more power if need be.
Here he is with an incomplete nearly drained stone, again at his base level of strength nearly beating Grimm to death...
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326305187285.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326560066504.jpgFinally with no stone at all...
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/Nova%20CQB%20protocols/1326249277289.jpg
Those scans were just to establish a solid level of base strength for The Sphincter. Him casually handling the thing without amping as compared to Grimm's contemporaries prolly places him somewhere in the WWH/Super pissed off Savage Hulk range in terms of general strength. If anyone agrees that that's a fair assessment then I'll move on to more advanced stuff.
WB Hulk would have killed the Thing with a thunder clap. He would also have never felt a punch from him either. No offense, but could you be hung up on titles?
Originally posted by Stoic
What makes you believe that the Sphinx had levels that even came close to Galactus? From what I recall, Galactus beat the Sphinx without issue. Titles are good and fine, but feats outweigh titles. What did the Sphinx do other than get absolutely dominated by Galactus? I'm posting the comic issue that this all went down in. Check it out. The Sphinx with one Ka Stone wasn't that impressive.
The fact that they were engaged in a grappling contest for a while etc. Put it this way, if wbh tried to engage Galan in h2h in a grappling match he'd get folded like a lawn chair...
Originally posted by Stoic
WB Hulk would have killed the Thing with a thunder clap. He would also have never felt a punch from him either. No offense, but could you be hung up on titles?
I think you're lowballing here my boy. A motivated Galan kicked his ass no doubt. Historically big G can do that to most beings when he's not phucking around. Having said that, you'd have to be pretty nuts to say that he's not clearly portrayed above the likes of the hulk. That much is clear.
Also, what title does Sphinx carry? He's not "the devour of worlds" or "the master of time" or some such. He carries no title.
Originally posted by dmills
The fact that they were engaged in a grappling contest for a while etc. Put it this way, if wbh tried to engage Galan in h2h in a grappling match he'd get folded like a lawn chair...I think you're lowballing here my boy. A motivated Galan kicked his ass no doubt. Historically big G can do that to most beings when he's not phucking around. Having said that, you'd have to be pretty nuts to say that he's not clearly portrayed above the likes of the hulk. That much is clear.
Also, what title does Sphinx carry? He's not "the devour of worlds" or "the master of time" or some such. He carries no title.
You showed scans of the Sphinx toying with the Thing, and I proved that the Hulk would not even feel the Things most powerful punches. The Bi-Beast without jobbing would beat the Thing up, as would Wendigo, while WB Hulk did not even notice them. let's not make this about Galactus, because he absolutely destroyed the Sphinx. Based off of feats, WB Hulk would destroy the Sphinx, and that's not me lowballing him, it's just what has been shown on panel. The Sphinx has never shown the ability to be able to crush worlds. Are you sure that you aren't lowballing the Hulk?
Oh yeah, and Galactus wasn't going all out on the Sphinx, he just beat him up, and it appeared to be with ease as well.
Originally posted by StoicSeriously?
The Sphinx has never shown the ability to be able to crush worlds.
The guy stomped Terrax out when Terrax was written well (and was still fresh as a herald).
The guy was backed by a planet sized computer... and the Ka Stone. Why the hell would he not be able to destroy a world? Why would he have to?
WBH wins. What top tiers has Sphinx took out. If we are just using statements then let's look at what WWH said. "You can't stop me, none of you all can"... And it was some heavy hitters out there. Ms. marvel, War Machine, the fantastic four (including Thing).
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=IncredibleHulk611005.jpg
Let's add to this. Skaar amped himself up to 100 Trillion tons of force...enough force that it was causing planetary problems.
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=IncredibleHulk611007.jpg
Enough force that the heavy hitters I brought up couldn't even budge him.
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=IncredibleHulk611008.jpg
Bit yet we have Hulk treating him like a flee...even after absorbing all of this power and lets not forget, he did this with one arm and let's also not forget...this isn't even WBH, this is WWH, someone that is far weaker.
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=IncredibleHulk611011.jpg
Sphinx handling Thing, impressive, does this put him anywhere near WWH level...sure doesn't.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Seriously?The guy stomped Terrax out when Terrax was written well (and was still fresh as a herald).
The guy was backed by a planet sized computer... and the Ka Stone. Why the hell would he not be able to destroy a world? Why would he have to?
Yeah seriously.
Sentry crushed Terrax like a bug, and the Hulk at a much weaker level than World Breaking levels defeated a very confident, psyched up by the Stark pep talk Sentry (just so that there are no excuses to the Hulk winning). Again this was not the Hulk who was at a much higher level, when he was in the Dark Dimension. Weigh both sides, it took me nearly an hour to reply to the this topic because i really had to think about it. This meant stripping down the titles of the Sphinx being a Trans tier, and just going by what he was capable of doing vs what WB Hulk was capable of doing.
Originally posted by StoicNone of this has anything to do with Sphinx crushing worlds.
Yeah seriously.Sentry crushed Terrax like a bug, and the Hulk at a much weaker level than World Breaking levels defeated a very confident, psyched up by the Stark pep talk Sentry (just so that there are no excuses to the Hulk winning). Again this was not the Hulk who was at a much higher level, when he was in the Dark Dimension. Weigh both sides, it took me nearly an hour to reply to the this topic because i really had to think about it. This meant stripping down the titles of the Sphinx being a Trans tier, and just going by what he was capable of doing vs what WB Hulk was capable of doing.
Sentry crushed a jobbing Terrax. Sphinx stomped out Terrax when he wasn't a joke.
Either way, so you're saying Sphinx is below someone like... Terrax because he didn't prove to you he could crush worlds?
Originally posted by Stoic
You showed scans of the Sphinx toying with the Thing, and I proved that the Hulk would not even feel the Things most powerful punches. The Bi-Beast without jobbing would beat the Thing up, as would Wendigo, while WB Hulk did not even notice them. let's not make this about Galactus, because he absolutely destroyed the Sphinx. Based off of feats, WB Hulk would destroy the Sphinx, and that's not me lowballing him, it's just what has been shown on panel. The Sphinx has never shown the ability to be able to crush worlds. Are you sure that you aren't lowballing the Hulk?Oh yeah, and Galactus wasn't going all out on the Sphinx, he just beat him up, and it appeared to be with ease as well.
Come on brah, you're more savvy than this. You know I said that I posted the scans to established a baseline of strength for the Sphinx. Which I said was WWH/very pissed savage Hulk range. Not that Ben Grimm was the be all end all. He caught his punch, was crushing his hand while monologuing. And that was classic Sphinx pre worldmind amp.
The power to crush worlds? Man the Sphinx has altered reality, time/space on a whim. He has destroyed planets with a thought from interstellar distances. He has the power to crush a planet and then will it back together again brah.
Galactus was motivated by Reed letting him have Earth. In other words, he was finally offered the pussy that he had been wanting so desperately to smash. Read the dialogue.
At one point during the fight they were engaged in a grappling match. Iirc it lasted a few panels at that. The art depiction had them quivering indicative of a physical stalemate. All while talking with him. I figure a dude has to be pretty phucking strong to do that. If you feel wbh can do that then come out and say it. Just sayin.
