The Sphinx vs WBH h2h

Originally posted by dmills
Come on brah, you're more savvy than this. You know I said that I posted the scans to established a baseline of strength for the Sphinx. Which I said was WWH/very pissed savage Hulk range. Not that Ben Grimm was the be all end all. He caught his punch, was crushing his hand while monologuing. And that was classic Sphinx pre worldmind amp.

The power to crush worlds? Man the Sphinx has altered reality, time/space on a whim. He has destroyed planets with a thought from interstellar distances. He has the power to crush a planet and then will it back together again brah.

Galactus was motivated by Reed letting him have Earth. In other words, he was finally offered the pussy that he had been wanting so desperately to smash. Read the dialogue.

At one point during the fight they were engaged in a grappling match. Iirc it lasted a few panels at that. The art depiction had them quivering indicative of a physical stalemate. All while talking with him. I figure a dude has to be pretty phucking strong to do that. If you feel wbh can do that then come out and say it. Just sayin.

His battle with Galactus was not a Galactus trying too hard. Galactus beat him so bad that he retconned his entire history. That was not a battle but more of a humiliation. If the Sphinx took on WB Hulk at his same height, he would be beaten. I have never read the other stories with him in them outside of the Galactus battle, and him punking the Thing. What was his best showing? Was it better than he looked against Galactus? If not, what I am saying is that it would be a good fight, but my vote goes to WB Hulk.

I also realize the reason why you used the Thing showing. I was just showing that it wasn't anything that WB Hulk could not do much better.

It would also appear that a Shinx that could alter reality would also be above Galactus right? I was thinking that we were debating an unamplified by the World Mind Sphinx. That would also not constitute a normal Sphinx, but one aided by outside means.

Sphinx lost to Black Bolt...both physically and output of power.

Originally posted by carver9
Sphinx lost to Black Bolt...both physically and output of power.

Well now, that's an eye opener.

Originally posted by dmills
Come on brah, you're more savvy than this. You know I said that I posted the scans to established a baseline of strength for the Sphinx. Which I said was WWH/very pissed savage Hulk range. Not that Ben Grimm was the be all end all. He caught his punch, was crushing his hand while monologuing. And that was classic Sphinx pre worldmind amp.

The power to crush worlds? Man the Sphinx has altered reality, time/space on a whim. He has destroyed planets with a thought from interstellar distances. He has the power to crush a planet and then will it back together again brah.

Galactus was motivated by Reed letting him have Earth. In other words, he was finally offered the pussy that he had been wanting so desperately to smash. Read the dialogue.

At one point during the fight they were engaged in a grappling match. Iirc it lasted a few panels at that. The art depiction had them quivering indicative of a physical stalemate. All while talking with him. I figure a dude has to be pretty phucking strong to do that. If you feel wbh can do that then come out and say it. Just sayin.

These are the unamplified by the World Mind Sphinx's power. None of it states the ability to alter reality.

Powers and abilities

The Sphinx is an ancient mutant, who has gained additional abilities through use of the Ka Stone, and other sources. The character possesses superhuman strength, stamina, durability, agility, and reflexes, and virtual immortality. Courtesy of the Ka stone, the Sphinx also possess a range of metaphysical abilities including energy projection; telepathy; teleportation and flight. The Sphinx also possesses knowledge of ancient Egyptian sorcery.

I'll post the scans when I get home. Moral of story, Black Bolt made him flee in pain with an electron blast and this was a full powered Sphinx, one that was boasting that he took on Galactus.

Here's Sphincter smacking a byatch taking his power back...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/picsay-1324491082.jpg

The same broad that punched the Hulk into green pudding...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934016521.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934027769.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934184001.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I'll post the scans when I get home. Moral of story, Black Bolt made him flee in pain with an electron blast and this was a full powered Sphinx, one that was boasting that he took on Galactus.

You sure that you wanna play it that way? I'll give you a chance to correct yourself.

Originally posted by dmills
You sure that you wanna play it that way? I'll give you a chance to correct yourself.

Originally posted by dmills
You sure that you wanna play it that way? I'll give you a chance to correct yourself.

Lol...Sphinx doesnt do so well against Heralds...that's all I'm saying.

Originally posted by Stoic
It would also appear that a Shinx that could alter reality would also be above Galactus right? I was thinking that we were debating an unamplified by the World Mind Sphinx. That would also not constitute a normal Sphinx, but one aided by outside means.

That was permanent. It was as much about knowledge as it was power. As we see he can still alter time/space etc to this day.

You've shown fts that put him above Professor Hulk...what other fts do you have.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well now, that's an eye opener.

http://img67.exs.cx/img67/5563/vssphinx19mx.jpg
http://img63.exs.cx/img63/9550/vssphinx25qz.jpg
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/9885/vssphinx31pn.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I'll post the scans when I get home. Moral of story, Black Bolt made him flee in pain with an electron blast and this was a full powered Sphinx, one that was boasting that he took on Galactus.

And Sphinx didn't have the Xandar computer so you know... he wasn't the same level as the one who fought Galactus because you're a liar

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Why'd you create this thread if you think Sphinx is below Black Bolt level?
Oh ya, troll

And Sphinx didn't have the Xandar computer so you know... he wasn't the same level as the one who fought Galactus because you're a liar

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Why'd you create this thread if you think Sphinx is below Black Bolt level?
Oh ya, troll

And Sphinx didn't have the Xandar computer so you know... he wasn't the same level as the one who fought Galactus because you're a liar

I never said he is below BB, I said his performance against Heralds isn't above what WWH would do. I'm pointing out reason WBH would get the majority, not that it isn't a fight. I never said it was a stomp either since I do.believe Sphinx could give Hulk a fight.

Simple logic.

Originally posted by dmills
Here's Sphincter smacking a byatch taking his power back...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/picsay-1324491082.jpg

The same broad that punched the Hulk into green pudding...

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934016521.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934027769.jpg
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1322934184001.jpg

Many people feel that alternate reality characters may not be on the same power level as their 616 cousins. If Black Bolt indeed defeated the Sphinx, then it would certainly not be impossible for WB Hulk to defeat him. There are a lot of people trying to reduce the impact, and power that the Hulk showed in HOTM when he went World Breaker, even claiming that he died, and ignoring that his durability grows in direct proportion to his strength, and the fact that it was not seen on panel. there were even claims to compare Drax fighting Thanos when they also destroyed a planet with the power that was being output during HOTM, while ignoring She Hulk having been able to overpower that same version of Drax during The Avengers Annual #16.

People have even argued that Thor, who has stalemated with the far weaker Savage Hulk, would give WB a challenge when we have seen Bi-Beast move Thor with punches, yet was unable to even effect the Hulk with those same punches with the help of Wendgo. People have even attempted to pretend that Wendigo, and Bi-Beast at 1000x base were still pretty weak, this is what you call bullsh1t at it's best.

On the spot time manipulation is above the likes of Galactus, as I have yet to see him time jump at will, or manipulate time like the time gem is capable of doing. Does this mean that the Sphinx would defeat Galactus?

I wouldn't challenge your claim that the Sphinx gave Galactus a good fight if he did, but the truth of the matter is that he really didn't do much aside from getting humiliated. Galactus wasn't challenged the way he was in his battle with the Sphinx, as he was when he battled it out with the Inbetweener. That was Galactus pouring it on.

During the HOTM arc, what the reader was supposed come away thinking was that the Hulk generated enough power to decimate planets while only using physical force. This is something that I have yet to see the Sphinx do.

Originally posted by Stoic
Many people feel that alternate reality characters may not be on the same power level as their 616 cousins. If Black Bolt indeed defeated the Sphinx, then it would certainly not be impossible for WB Hulk to defeat him. There are a lot of people trying to reduce the impact, and power that the Hulk showed in HOTM when he went World Breaker, even claiming that he died, and ignoring that his durability grows in direct proportion to his strength, and the fact that it was not seen on panel. there were even claims to compare Drax fighting Thanos also destroyed a planet, while ignoring She Hulk having been able to overpower that same version of Drax during The Avengers Annual #16.

People have even argued that Thor, who has stalemated with the far weaker Savage Hulk, would give WB a challenge when we have seen Bi-Beast move Thor with punches, yet was unable to even effect the Hulk with those same punches with the help of Wendgo. People have even attempted to pretend that Wendigo, and Bi-Beast at 1000x base were still pretty weak, this is what you call bullsh1t at it's best.

On the spot time manipulation is above the likes of Galactus, as I have yet to see him time jump at will, or manipulate time like the time gem is capable of doing. Does this mean that the Sphinx would defeat Galactus?

I wouldn't challenge your claim that the Sphinx gave Galactus a good fight if he did, but the truth of the matter is that he really didn't do much aside from getting humiliated. Galactus wasn't challenged the way he was in his battle with the Sphinx, as he was when he battled it out with the Inbetweener. That was Galactus pouring it on.

During the HOTM arc, what the reader was supposed come away thinking was that the Hulk generated enough power to decimate planets while only using physical force. This is something that I have yet to see the Sphinx do.

Careful. She warped 616 reality and as was explained in the arc when she changed everything back to normal as if it had never happened. The characters involved were very much 616 characters that had been affected by the warp. It wasn't a separate reality that ran parallel to 616. Hell Nova even believed he was an Avenger working for the Sphinx lol.

I'll post the scans in a minute that address this and some of your other comments.

Originally posted by dmills
Careful. She warped 616 reality and as was explained in the arc when she changed everything back to normal as if it had never happened. The characters involved were very much 616 characters that had been affected by the warp. It wasn't a separate reality that ran parallel to 616. Hell Nova even believed he was an Avenger working for the Sphinx lol.

I'll post the scans in a minute that address this and some of your other comments.

No need to post I have the New Warriors comic that you are speaking of, unless of course you feel the need to post for others who have never read the comic. This is also a H2H contest, and not one where the Sphinx BFR's the Hulk into the Jurassic period. H2H strength to strength. I have yet to see the Sphinx generate the power that the Hulk did during HOTM.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he is below BB, I said his performance against Heralds isn't above what WWH would do. I'm pointing out reason WBH would get the majority, not that it isn't a fight. I never said it was a stomp either since I do.believe Sphinx could give Hulk a fight.

Simple logic.

Originally posted by carver9
Sphinx lost to Black Bolt...both physically and output of power.

You're just a liar, simply put. Misleading Stoic to believe it was the same one who fought Galactus