Originally posted by dmills
But its a false comparison bro. As tempting as it is you can't project a mental non physical battle onto a purely physical one. It's apples and oranges. From a purely physical head on standpoint what evidence do you have to suggest that Zeus or Odin would've done any differently then the Sphinx against Galactus? In fact until the Hulk fight, we really didn't have a clear indication of what Zeus was even truly capable of physically. In fact, until that Hulk fight with Zeus, that was justification enough in some peoples eyes to suggest that the Hulk could take skyfathers in h2h. So using your approach, what justification do you have for placing Zeus so high up on a pedestal? Hell by that standard what -aside from title/office- makes Zeus appear to be on Odin's level? You see how many ways we can play this?Bottomline is this. Let's cut the bullshit. Even in a losing effort it doesn't take a genius to extrapolate the Sphinx's physical strength from that encounter as it relates to this battle. I've posted scans of an unamped Sphinx. I've posted scans of classic Sphinx and I've posted scans of the Sphinx sans his ka stone. All of which depicted his base levels of strength as top tier or imo, slightly above top tier unless you want to sell me, say an average Thor catching the thing's hand mid blow and proceeding to crush it while monologing. I posted scans on how his power works, how vast that power is with mass reality/time warping etc.
The only thing that you've appeared to have done is desperately attempt to lowball the sphinx's feats because let's be real, if the Sphinx is anywhere near skyfather level then that's pretty much game over in this debate. I'm not going to fall into the trap of lowballing Zeus or Odin to try and make my point about the Sphinx. I don't have to.
Then there are the arguments about tiers and shyte. Again if your story is that the Sphinx is below skyfather level, then I need to see someone considered below that level warping reality on that scale. I mean M-day Wanda sure gets a lot of love in terms of tiers. Who'd she beat? Odin? Galactus? Or does she get a commonsense pass based upon her portrayal and her, gulp, power-set? Generally power-set isn't the end all in these debates, but some things are just so blatantly obvious that it supersedes the conventional. Massive reality/time manip is one such thing imo.
This is a fist fight. Gladiator could catch the Things punch and crush it, that's not me low balling, that's what has been depicted. The Hulk ignored punches from high level class 100's in Wendigo and Bi-Beast. Wendigo for example held off both the Savage Hulk, and Sasquatch, while the Savage Hulk was never quite able to defeat Bi-Beast. Next we see those same two transformed into giants multiplied 1000x their base strength level, and being casually punked and thrown into the upper atmosphere as forcefully directed cruise missiles aimed at Arm'Cheddon's battle fortress.
The Hulk at that period in time was playing with them, and still did not go into full blown WB Mode as he said that he was still holding back. Then we see how strong he becomes in the Dark Dimension, and capable of growing stronger yet, because we still have not seen the Hulk's max strength yield. There is no proof that Zeus, Odin, or Tyrant are more powerful in terms of strength than the Sphinx, but the Odin headbutt was physical, and it put Galactus out for a little while, which is far more than the Sphinx was capable of doing.
You may have seen the Sphinx give Galactus a hard time, but what I saw was a humiliation, and public flogging. In other words Galactus beat his ass convincingly enough for me to call it a no contest.
Back on point, I believe as I said before that if the Sphinx had the same strength level as he did when he fought Galactus, but was within a smaller physique, that he would give HOTM Hulk a very good fight, but based on what I saw in terms of destructive feats, and that the Hulk's strength was still not capped, that the Hulk would defeat him. This has nothing to do with time warps, reality warps or any of the other powers that the Sphinx boasts. This is a H2H contest after all.
